In a message dated 5/31/01 10:34:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, EUROMOG@AOL.COM
writes:

<< Maybe a proper humiliation should be that Tim have his Syncro taken away
for
 a month. Then forced to drive a bone stock Vanagon diesel instead......<G>
  >>

I think that would fall under "Cruel and unusual punishment"

--Paul--