Max,

What's a Wilfy kit and where do you get it?

Charles
'85 Westy

At 01:16 PM 6/14/01 -0500, Max Wellhouse wrote:
>My spillage history is as follows:
>Bought  90GL in 4/97  No fill up problems.  About last summer, I started
>with the post-fillup smell.  Replaced crossover pipe, grommets, hoses a la
>Wilfy kit.  Smell went away, but a couple tanks of gas later the filler pipe
>belching started.  My van has the later ball in the bottom of the filler
>neck, so my next course of action will be to replace the valves in the top
>of the expansion tanks under the front fender wells.  Something in these
>systems isn't breathing properly and is not allowing the escaping air(that's
>being replaced by the pumped in fuel) to reach the atmosphere, right?  Maybe
>it could be a blockage or constriction in the ball valve assembly at the
>bottom of the filler neck piece.  All I can say, is that the 2WD models
>didn't do it when they were new, so there has to be something that has
>failed somewhere.
>
>As far as the Syncros,  I'll have to study the Bentley photo on that to see
>hat might be causing the problem.  It seems to me that the air in the gas
>tank has to escape somehow in order for the tank to fill with any fluid.
>Try butting the male end of a garden hose up flush to an empty 2 liter
>Sprite bottle and trying to fill it with various water pressures.  You can
>trickle water in there, but not full flow. Poke a half inch hole in the
>bottle, and watch the difference in how fast the water goes in now.  Got to
>be a parallel in there somewhere.   yeah, Bill Nye, Science Guy wannabe!!
>
>Dimwitted Moose and Flying Squirrel
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dave Baker" <DBAKER5@KC.RR.COM>
>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 8:09 AM
>Subject: Re: Re.Spillage when filling the gas
>
>
> > On one and only one occasion, I was able to get a full tank of gas without
> > spillage, using the automatic shut off feature of the pump.  It was at a
>gas
> > station I do not normally frequent.  This leads me to believe your
>assertion
> > that the trip sensors on conventional pumps don't like the internal
>geometry
> > of the Vanagon fill spout for some reason.
> >
> > Dave in KC
> > 85 Westy
> > http://members.fortunecity.com/davebaker1
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mark Rokus <marokus@VOYAGER.NET>
> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 1:01 AM
> > Subject: Re: Re.Spillage when filling the gas
> >
> >
> > > I do.  In fact it happened to me last night. (happens on both of my
> > Syncros)
> > > Be aware that setting the nozzle on the first notch and leaving to wash
> > the
> > > windows will almost always have you buying more gas than will fit, as it
> > > ends up on the ground.  I suspect that the trip sensor is vaccuum driven
> > by
> > > the passing fuel and at low flow rates, it just isn't adjusted to trip
> > > properly.  It has happened so much to me that I quit complaining to the
> > > stations about the adjustment,  I just expect it to happen.
> > >