> we must remember, this list is moderated by tom, and there are certain
> rights of ownership that go with this moderation.  hell, he has the
servers
> and the archives, right?  so tom can define porn any way he wants, and
> impose his will upon us with nary a second thought

Yes, he has the power to do that.  Having the power doesn't make it right.
I have the power to object, and I did.

> if tom makes the decision that it should not be, i accept that
> decision...truthfully, it's his to make, regardless of whether i accept it
> or not

It is his decision, and I accept his right to make it.  I hope he respects
my right to disagree.  It does not, in truth, really affect me, as I have no
interest in posting links of that type.  I still think the decision was
wrong, and, worse, biased in favor of some religious/moral views at the
expense of others equally valid.

> ultimately, if i don't like tom's methods of moderation, i can go
away...or
> give tom enough grief so that *he* goes away.

I can also protest what I see as a wrong decision.  I protested when Coyote
banned the discussion of where to best store your firearm in a Vanagon.  I
always speak up on issues of free speech.

>  anyone else want the headache
> and cost of hosting the vanagon list?
> speak up, i can't hear you...

I have been involved with this list for a long time.  I was involved when it
was in California, and when it was moved to Canada, I was one of those who
volunteered to host it.  When it moved again, I volunteered again.  I have
also, over the years, donated money on several occasions.  I have supported
the list for a long time.  If you can't hear me, you aren't listening.

Bill Nolan
Willcox, AZ