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Subject:Re: Wire Leaked it's smoke
From:Boroko
Date:Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:51:38 -0700

Thanks David,
I didn't intend to be mean, I had just never heard of anyone adding a fuse
to the main line.  In fact, it suprises me that there is not some kind of
link (fusable) already there.  I have never seen a wiring failure like this
that wasn't caused by someone messing around where they had no business in
the first place. This, so far looks like a "non-caused " failure.  By that I
mean that no one has been into the wiring on this van and the main ground to
the engine was replaced last year.  I will investigate and report when I get
into it.  Today was spent stocking up on "Scotch-Kote" and electrical tape,
oh, and a little sleep.  I wonder if this kind of failure happens very
often?
Thanks for the specific numbers.  They will help me when I start looking
into the Bently and the do the post mortem.
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Beierl" <dbeierl@attglobal.net>
To: "Boroko" <marokus@voyager.net>
Cc: <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Wire Leaked it's smoke

> At 07:52 AM 6/20/2001, Boroko wrote:
> >Is there a circuit that you have seen that could be fused that would save
> >one from this problem?
>
> The engine compartment circuit in the '87s is fed by a 2.5 wire from
> alternator B+ to a distribution terminal in the terminal box on the
> firewall, Bentley 97.104 track 5.  From there it goes as a 1.5 to the 30
> terminals of the ECU and fuel pump relays, 97.106 track 31-2.  ECU relay
87
> feeds  all the injector hots plus the fuel pump relay 86 terminal, plus
the
> idle stabilizer and power-steering switch.
>
> A short to ground anywhere along this path will smoke the harness between
> the short and the distribution box.
>
>
> >Oh, and I have been through the shorted injector problem.  Floods in
> >milliseconds to the point that it runs out the exhaust seams.
>
> That would be an ECU failure or a short from the injector ground to
chassis
> ground (the ECU fires the injectors by grounding them).
>
> david
>
>
> David Beierl - dbeierl@attglobal.net
>
>