Tony, TAP that plug 200 times with a ball peen hammer, then see if it
will turn. If not, put a wrench on the plug...preferably a box end type.
Put some continuous pressure on the wrench, and while maintaining that
pressure or torque in a loosing direction, use a small ball peen hammer
and TAP on that plug 200 times. Somewhere between "0" and "200" it
should turn.  If it doesn't......you have a drilling job on your hands.
But nothing ventured nothing gained!

Good Luck.

John Rodgers
88 GL Driver

Tony wrote:
>
> --- Larry Alofs <lalofs@enteract.com> wrote:
> > Tony wrote:
> >
> > > Actually know that I get a complete look/see it is
> > NOT
> > > a vanagon 2.1 oil plug - it is an oversize -- and
> > it
> > > is REALLLY in there - I tried tapping 20 or so
> > times -
> > > then used a 6 side socket - no go; tried a
> > new-style
> > > vise-grips (it has a special jaw for grabbing bolt
> > > heads/nuts) - same thing - no go.
> > >
> > > So, I understand from here my alternatives are:
> > >
> > > 1. leave it in there and drain the oil through the
> > oil
> > > screen
> > >
> > >  -- Appreciate directions on how to do that - and
> > does
> > > it empty all the old oil?
> > >
> > > 2. Take it to my local vw garage, and have em get
> > it
> > > out and put in a helicoil (heard this is around
> > $80
> > > ????)
> > >
> > > Thanks all,
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > > '89 Carat "Agnes"
> > > --- Joel Walker <jwalker17@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > > > Havin' trouble opening the oil plug on my 89
> > Carat
> > > > -
> > > > > newly aquired and needs a change...the plug
> > won't
> > > > > budge - ended up chafing two of the corners on
> > the
> > > > > bolthead trying - tried both when warm and
> > cool -
> > > > > couldn't get it to move -- any ideas?
> > > >
> > > > ok, first go get a replacement plug from the
> > dealer.
> > > > get two or three.
> > > > and the little copper washers. that way, if you
> > > > bugger up the hex-head
> > > > on the one in the bus now, you'll have one to
> > put
> > > > back in. and carry a
> > > > spare in the glove box ... you never know when
> > you
> > > > might lose it in
> > > > the grass. :)
> > > >
> > > > get a large pair of vise grips or channel locks
> > > > (that will comfortably
> > > > fit under there) and see if you can get it loose
> > > > that way. make SURE
> > > > you are turning it in the right direction! most
> > > > likely, some idiot at
> > > > the jiffy-lube used an air impact wrench to put
> > it
> > > > back in. :(
> > > >
> > > > another trick is to tap on it with a hammer for
> > a
> > > > while ... straight
> > > > up onto the drain plug. nice solid taps ... but
> > not
> > > > whacking it! ...
> > > > about 20 or 30 times. sometimes that can loosen
> > the
> > > > threads.
> > > >
> > > > but basically you're gonna have to get something
> > > > that grips it solidly
> > > > (NEVER use crescent wrenches or open-end
> > wrenches to
> > > > take it off.
> > > > always use only box-end wrenches with 6-sides or
> > a
> > > > 6-sided socket.
> > > > don't use 12-sided wrenches or sockets on a
> > drain
> > > > plug). and just
> > > > torque it off. :(
> > > >
> > > > good luck!
> > > > joel
> > > >
> > >
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> > What happened when you tried the 6 point socket?
> > Did you round off all the corners?
> >
> > Larry A.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Nope - I didn't use it much - just tried to get it to
> budge --
>
> FYI: My mechanic buddy said to try running the engine
> to warm, then take a icecube or 2 and cool down just
> the plug - and then try it.
>
> FYI2 - My shop mechanic said for $40-50 he'll get out
> the old plug and set a helicoil w/proper threads...
>
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