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Subject:Re: AC
From:Mark Dorm
Date:Thu, 5 Jul 2001 15:34:25 -0700

What exactly is the web site for this information? is autofrost a company?

>From: Todd Last <Rubatoguy@MINDSPRING.COM>
>Reply-To: Todd Last <Rubatoguy@MINDSPRING.COM>
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: AC
>Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 10:03:08 -0700
>
>Interesting comment, as the autofrost 409 website has the text:
>"EPA approved for all cars", and an article from the "North American
>Council of
>Automotive Teachers"
>about using 409 in cars.
>
>Who were you referring to that has "not approved" it?
>
>Todd
>
>Chas Hoakanson wrote:
>
> > I am no AC guru, but with all this talk  about 409, I figured I should
>pipe
> > up.  First, 409 is not approved for mobile systems.  It was designed for
> > home, stationary systems (which is why it is sold only in 30lb cans).
> > Therefore, it cannot legally be used in your vanagon.  Also, it is a
>blend
> > contianing something like 60% R22 .  As a result you will see extremely
>high
> > head pressures using this stuff, especially at high ambient temp.  I
>realize
> > people have used it, and I am really not saying not to or that it won't
>work,
> > I am just trying to point out that it is not the holy grail of R12
> > replacement  and if you want to play with your AC, you should do the
>research
> > and be comfortable with what you are doing.  An AC system is one of the
>few
> > system on a vanagon, that can acutally hurt you.    My. .02  Charlie..

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