

| Subject: | Re: How To Install Your New VC |
| From: | Steve Schwenk |
| Date: | Thu, 5 Jul 2001 15:40:21 -0700 |
At steps 7-9 it might be noted that it is a little tricky removing the casing to get to the VC. It can hang up on the Diff. mount bar, the one in a "U" shape, and I had to remove that bar to get it off and out of the way. Any one have the part numbers handy for the drive shaft nuts that must be replaced? I will be upgrading the syncro.org site soon and will restore the photos for the VC change. The site where i had the photos stored went under. Peter dug them up for me and I can send them out till the site is fixed again. Maybe I can use this description on the site? Steve Derek Drew wrote: > > OK Brian. You are one of many people asking me for a > definitive guide to replacing your VC. So for the > benefit of the archives, here goes the best most > current version of these instructions. No special > tools or automotive experience are needed for this > job, and because it is so simple, it should not be > farmed out to a transmission shop. The best thing I > could say, going from memory, is to.... > > 1. Drive van up on 4 ramps > 2. Put jackstands under van in case ramps fail > 3. Record and mark the alignment of the driveshaft to > the front differential so that you can put the same > bolt through the same holes of each unit upon > reassembly. This will reduce the chances of your > ending up with an out of balance driveshaft on > reassembly. > 3. Unbolt the four forward bolts holding the > driveshaft on with either a 1/2 inch or 13mm open end > wrench and some liquid wrench. If the 13mm wrench > doesn't work that great, try the 1/2 inch open end > wrench. > 4. Loosen the bolts holding the front differential so > that differential may be shifted around. > 5. Shift the front diff forward so that the > driveshaft will fall away from the front diff. Shift > that driveshaft out of the way. > 6. Remove the oil from the front diff through the oil > drain hole. Throw that oil away by bringing it to > your nearest auto repair shop for disposal. > 7. Remove the 13ish? 13?mm bolts holding the back > half of the front differential onto the vehicle and > then pop the rear third of the differential off > backwards. Do not looosen the big bolt at the > rearmost point in the front differential > 8. Have something on the ground to catch the residual > oil that will spill out. > 9. Pull the VC out and replace, being careful to > reinstall the little metal washer that is wedged in > there. No special tools or measurements of any kind > are needed. > 10. Bolt everything back together, but bolt the front > differential down last after shifting it around to > properly seat it in relation to the rear > transmission. When bolting the driveshaft back on, > either replace the 4 driveshaft nuts with factory new > ones the way VW says to do it (proper way), or just > use Red Loctite the way about half the people on the > list do it (universal list method) or reuse the > original nuts with no loctitie the way the other half > does it (pogo stick method; see below). > 11. Refill the front differential with GL-5 > Transmission oil using the factory specified > viscocity. Mobil 1 makes a good GL-5 for the front > diff. (Make sure not to use GL-5 in the rear > transmission, however, as that takes only > GL-4--eveybody wisely uses Redline GL-4 synthetic for > the rear.) > 12. The entire job should take you about 1 hour. But > for some reason --I cannot predict in advance why -- > it will actually take you 5 hours :-). Some members > have reported broken bolts holding the diff in place, > or broken rubber mounts, so be prepared to hunt these > parts down if you decide you need to replace them. > 13. Some people decide to remove the diff entirely to > do this job. You can do that, but that means you have > to disconnect the front CV joints, which is a pain. > Still, those front CV joints probably need their > grease to be renewed anyway. And as long as you are > regreasing the inner front cv joints, you might as > well do the outers too, and inspect the boots, and > then why not the rears and HEY lets not loose focus > here... > 14. The best description on how to change your VC was > originally posted to the list by Rainer about three > years ago, but Steve Schwenks photo essay matched > this post in utility and interest. Too bad it is not > on syncro.org right now. I will copy Ranier's post > below. > ABOUT THE POGO STICK METHOD. > This is actually a method of easily removing the > transmission and engine from the vehicle. > Essentially, the procedure is to skip using loctite > on the nuts that hold the driveshaft on the front > diff, and don't replace those nuts with new nuts > either. Just reuse your old nuts even though the > factory says to replace them. When the nuts or bolts > eventually fail, the driveshaft will drop down on the > highway and get lodged on a rock, crack, or other > obstacle and remove your trannsmission and engine in > about two seconds. This also works in the event of a > front U-joint failure. If this does not appeal to > you, install a strap that holds up the front > driveshaft in the event its front attachment point > fails. I haven't put my strap in yet myself, but I > think about it from time to time. > > >> There is an excellent article by Steve on how to > >> replace the VC at www.syncro.org in the Tech > >> section called "Replacing the VC (photos): > > > > Reproduced below is Rainer's version of the above. It > differs from my version in some important respects so > it pays to read both posts. Note that Rainer is one > of the world's leading observers of the Syncro > Viscous Coupling, and is of much higher intellect > than the average Vanagon or Syncro poster so we are > lucky to have him among us. > > > VW's original (German) repair manual doesn't say > > much about how to test > > the viscous coupling. They only recommend placing > > the rear wheels in a > > break testing stand. If you then switch to the > > G-gear (creeping gear), > > the front wheels should move the van out of the > > test stand as soon as > > the engine is revving slightly above idle. If the > > front wheels fail to > > do so the viscous coupling is to be replaced, VW > > says. VW adds another > > tiny sentence to this, saying that only when the > > engine is revving at > > idle and with the G-gear switched in, the viscous > > coupling is able to > > absorb all the torque to the front wheels and keep > > them from moving. > > > > To me this last and rather ill-formulated (in > > the German manual) > > sentence is the key to testing the viscous > > coupling. For in most cases > > we are not dealing with viscous couplings doing > > less than their share, > > but rather with hard-going viscous couplings which > > don't have a problem > > at all in moving the van out of the test stand > > with the engine just > > idling. > > > > Thus the really important thing here is not the van > > successfully leaving > > the test stand. On the contrary, the important > > thing here is the van > > not moving and staying put in the test stand with > > the G-gear switched in > > and the engine just idling. If your Syncro > > doesn't pass this test your > > viscous coupling is probably worn out and ready > > for a replacement. Or > > put the other way round: as long as your van's > > viscous coupling is > > working properly you will not notice your van has > > got one. > > > > As soon as you are encountering problems > > with your Syncro when > > cornering, in particular after a long and fast > > drive, or as soon as -- > > despite of power steering -- steering becomes > > a bit difficult when > > turning and the Syncro slows down considerably when > > going round a corner > > ... as soon as one or more of these things are > > happening, your viscous > > coupling is most probably due for replacement. > > When the tires start > > whining while cornering it might well be too late > > already ... > > > > I once had all of these symptoms and it was > > immediately clear to me that > > the viscous coupling was the culprit. But it > > took some time for me to > > react, and it took some more time for the new > > viscous coupling to arrive > > at my door. Should you ever encounter similar > > problems I would urge you > > to immediately get under your van and remove > > the drive shaft between > > gearbox and front diff. If you fail to do > > this and wait too long, > > severe damage to the gearbox and/or front diff is > > the probable result. > > Removing the drive shaft is pretty straight > > forward, just four bolts and > > nuts (13 mm) on either end of the drive > > shaft. Then loosen (just > > loosen, don't remove them) the three nuts and > > bolts (17 mm) which hold > > the front diff in place, so the front diff can move > > out of the way a bit > > for the drive shaft to be removable. Don't forget > > to again tighten the > > 17 mm screws. > > > > When I was shopping for a new viscous > > coupling (according to all > > reliable sources I contacted they cannot be > > repaired) I asked several > > knowledgable people how long a viscous coupling > > is expected to last. > > Apart from "it depends" (an employee at > > Steyr-Daimler-Puch in Austria, > > the firm which was producing the Syncros and in > > particular the viscous > > couplings for VW) the answers ranged from "some > > 60,000 km" to "between > > 170,000 and 200,000 km". Mine was replaced > > after 150,000 km but I > > bought the Syncro with 80,000 km on the tach and > > don't know for sure > > whether or not this was still the first > > viscous coupling. But I'm > > assuming it was. > > > > As for the reason why the silicone in the > > viscous coupling gets too > > stiff and starts causing trouble the people > > I asked unanimously > > answered: to much strain. However, this is not > > referring to relentless > > off road driving in groundless mud, but rather > > to small but permanent > > differences in rotational speed between front and > > rear axle while doing > > normal on road driving. These differences in > > rotational speed can be > > caused by such things as unequal tire wear or > > different tire pressure. > > Tire diameters should be the same within a 2 to 4 > > mm tolerance. Or, in > > other words, if you're measuring the depths of > > the grooves in your > > tires, the differences should not exceed 1 to 2 mm. > > > > Thus people not caring tire pressure and tire > > wear, people having > > mounted different tire brands on the front and > > rear axles, as well as > > people never routinely using their spare tire so > > it gets worn roughly > > the same way as the other tires are most probably > > ruining their viscous > > coupling pretty fast. > > > > Removing the drive shaft as an emergency measure: > > If you have to, and provided you're slim > > enough, you can remove the > > drive shaft on the bare ground (at least if > > it's a Syncro 16"), just > > with a little help of the factory jack. In case > > your driveshaft was > > balanced in its current position, it may be a > > good idea to mark the > > alignment points of the flanges before removal. > > Then you'll have to use > > a pair of 13mm wrenches (due to space constraints > > only open wrenches are > > usable) to remove four bolts and nuts at either > > end of the drive shaft > > (sometimes the nuts are only 12mm). If you > > want to do it properly > > you'll also have to loosen (only loosen, don't > > remove!) the three nuts > > and bolts (17 mm) which hold the front diff in > > place via rubber stops, > > so the front diff can move out of the way a bit > > for the drive shaft to > > be removable. However, when lying on the bare > > ground just below the van > > this might be hard to do. If your drive shaft > > has got this rubber > > element in it you may try to simply use a screw > > driver to cautiously > > separate the two flanges at one end of the drive > > shaft. Knocking gently > > at the flanges at the other end will then take the > > drive shaft down. As > > to the rubber element: in diesel engined and FI > > vans the rubber element > > was facing opposite sides. Thus you'd better > > take some notes as to > > whether the rubber element is at the gearbox end > > or at the front diff > > end. > > > > Replacing the viscous coupling: > > To replace the viscous coupling you'll have > > to pull the front > > differential first. I don't think it's feasible > > to replace the viscous > > coupling right under the van with the front > > differential in place. > > Derek's Note: > Californians on the list proved otherwise so if you > want to leave the diff in there go ahead. Sam Walters > did it on the ground, but he indicated it was a pain. > > > In > > particular, reassembly would thus be much more > > difficult and would cause > > plenty of cursing. And you'd have to drain the oil > > first. By and large > > there is no witchcraft involved in pulling the > > front diff, but you > > should do it with the van on a lifting platform > > or above a grease-pit. > > And it takes two people as well as a floor-jack. > > > > First of all losen but don't yet remove the > > three 17mm nuts already > > mentioned which hold the front diff in place. > > Then remove the speedo > > cable as well as the six screws in each of the > > inner CV-joints. For > > this screws you'll need either a 6mm hexagonal > > or an 8mm multipoint > > socket. If you haven't done it yet you should > > now remove the drive > > shaft as described above. If you have a > > front diff lock (never > > officially exported to the US) unplug it > > electrically as well as > > pneumatically (tag the pipes so you can't > > confuse them later). Now > > remove the screw holding the vent pipe of the > > differential and then > > remove the three 17mm nuts and bolts holding the > > front diff. Get the > > floor-jack in place and remove the front and > > rear mounting brackets. > > Then together with a second person cautiously > > move the diff forward > > along the skid plate and out. Look out for the > > diff lock if there is > > one. > > > > Place the front diff on your workbench in such a > > way that the flange for > > the drive shaft is facing upwards. You can now > > easily remove the ten > > 13mm bolts with which the housing of the viscous > > coupling is attached to > > the front diff without risking any oil leaking. > > Lift the housing which > > is containing the input shaft. You will now see > > the viscous coupling > > itself and a little spacing collar sitting on > > top of it. Take this > > spacing collar, grease the top rim of it and again > > place it on the input > > shaft in the housing and slightly press it with > > its greased rim against > > the bearing so it will stay there. This will > > greatly ease reassembling > > the diff later. Now remove the old viscous > > coupling and put in the new > > one. Then apply silicone sealing compound to the > > contact flange of the > > housing and, inserting the input shaft into the > > viscous coupling, put > > the housing back in place. Finally, gently > > tighten the ten 13mm bolts > > crosswise, applying 20 Nm (15 ft lb.), and your > > front diff is ready to > > be reinstalled. > > > > Perhaps you should use the opportunity while the > > diff is still sitting > > on your workbench to check what has been caught > > by the magnet at the > > oil drain plug. > > > > To reinstall the front diff in the van simply > > reverse the steps laid out > > above, at the very last fastening the screws > > of the front and rear > > mounting brackets as well as the three 17mm > > bolts through the rubber > > stops (apply 45 Nm (33 ft lb.) to these). > > > > Tools and torques needed: > > > > Installation of the front diff: > > 17mm socket and ratchet, perhaps with > > extension. Use 17mm wrench to > > counter at the other side, 45 Nm (33 ft lb.) > > VC housing: > > 13mm socket with extension and ratchet, 20 Nm > > (15 ft lb.) > > CV-joints: > > either 6mm hexagonal or 8mm multipoint > > socket with extension and > > ratchet, 35 Nm (26 ft lb.) > > Drive shaft: > > Two open 13mm wrenches (sometimes only 12mm for > > the nuts), 35 Nm (26 > > ft lb.) > > Acknowledgements: > > Special thanks go to Wolfgang Carolsfeld in Canada > > <wolfgang@island.net> > > who not only proofread this text, helped me with > > some technical English > > terms I failed to find in my dictionary, and did > > the math involved in > > converting the torques from Nm to ft lb, but > > who also successfully > > applied the underlying German version of this text > > to his Syncro to make > > sure it works :-) > > ------------------ > > --------------------------------------------------- > > | Rainer M Woitok | Phone: > > (+49-9131) 85-27811,-27031 | > > | Regionales Rechenzentrum > > | | > > | Friedrich-Alexander-Universitaet | Fax : > > (+49-9131) 30 29 41 | > > | Martens-Strasse 1 | Telex: d 629 > > 755 tf erl | > > | D-91058 Erlangen > > | | > > | Germany | Mail: > > Woitok@RRZE.Uni-Erlangen.DE | > > -------------------------- > > -------------------------------------------
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