In a message dated 7/9/01 2:53:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, steve@syncro.org
writes:

<< In order to address this concern, i got an extra key
 made, a flat all metal one, and taped it under my van
 in a spot not easy to find/get to.  I used  aluminum
 tape.  I then painted over it with undercoating.  That
 was 4 years ago. You would need a bright flashlight and
 sharp eyes, plus a lot of probing to ever find it. >>

Thanks, Now I know. Where did you say you park your van? Please avoid muddy
or grassy parking spaces. Those are the worst stains to get out.

Bent but str8 in SF