Andrew,

This thread has shown that a thief with a wireless palm pilot can look up
how to find the key, get into the van/break into the van, and ***fix it***
before driving off... all from the archives (Bentley not included.)  On top
of that the thief knows which one has the lowest mileage, highest value, and
the most creature comfort enhancements.  Not to mention the best tires,
biggest engine.....forget the one in SF at the police station with the
hidden key.

Now that we are all naked, let's all go jump in the hot tub and get bake to
discussing the good stuff....... Aluminum tape; painted with undercoating; 4
years ago that key has to be petrified by now or it will soon be coming out
as a butterfly.

Jere
90 GL
88 GL

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]  On Behalf Of
Andrew Grebneff
Sent:   Tuesday, July 10, 2001 12:06 AM
To:     vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject:        Re: Re; Keys Locked in Van

>In order to address this concern, i got an extra key
>made, a flat all metal one, and taped it under my van
>in a spot not easy to find/get to.  I used  aluminum
>tape.  I then painted over it with undercoating.  That
>was 4 years ago. You would need a bright flashlight and
>sharp eyes, plus a lot of probing to ever find it.

Now, THAT's an idea. Where did you say you put it...?

Andrew Grebneff
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