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Subject:Re: Fuel consumption
From:Karl Wolz
Date:Sat, 11 Aug 2001 10:22:32 -0700

That's what happens when you hit "reply all".

One could then manually delete one of the names in the outbox, but that's a
minor PITA.

Karl Wolz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Finkbiner" <mike_l_f@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: Fuel consumption

> Dave Asked -
> >
> >OK.  I give up.  This is the second time I've seen "WOT."  I still can't
> >figure out what it means.  A little help, please.
> >
> >Dave in KC
>
> Dave -
>
> It means Wide Open Throttle, when you have pushed the throttle all the way
> to the floor, or the Cruise Control has done the same.
>
> The digitool has an LED which indicates when the throttle switch has been
> tripped.  That happens when the throttle is completely open, or completely
> closed.
>
> That sends a signal to the ECU, and at full throttle, it goes to a fixed,
> rich setting for maximum power.  It should result in higher fuel
> consumption.
>
> BTW, I'm curious.  Why did you send the note both to me and the list?
This
> way I get it twice, which seems a waste.
>
> I'm replying the same way, so you will see what I mean.
>
> - Mike Finkbiner
> '87 Westy
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Mike Finkbiner <mike_l_f@HOTMAIL.COM>
> >To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> >Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 11:48 PM
> >Subject: Re: Fuel consumption
> >
> >
> > > Gary -
> > >
> > > I agree with David.  I like the cruise control on my '87 Westy, but it
> >will
> > > go to WOT on fairly small hills.  With the digitool, I can see the
> >throttle
> > > switch come on.  That has to cut into the mileage a bit.
> > >
> > > When I am not using the cruise control, I can try to anticipate hills
by
> > > speeding up, and not have to work the engine quite so hard to make it
> >over
> > > the top.  But - on the long, boring straight stretches, it is well
worth
> >it.
> > >
> > > I suppose you could try to run several trips over the same terrain,
with
> >and
> > > without CC to see what happens, but I don't have the patience!
> > >
> > > - Mike Finkbiner
> > > '87 Westy
> > > Moscow, Idaho
> > >
> > >
> > >  >Date:    Fri, 10 Aug 2001 16:59:47 -0500
> > >  >From:    David Stell <dstell@MMCABLE.COM>
> > >  >Subject: Re: Fuel consumption
> > >
> > >  >Gary --
> > >
> > >  >First, let me say that I think cruise control is the greatest thing
> >since
> > >  >sliced bread!  I haven't owned a car without it since I don't know
> >when.
> > >
> > >  >That said, I do think it's possible that CC can cut mileage on a
"low
> > >  >powered" vehicle if the terrain is hilly.   If you would try to be a
> > > "human
> > >  >CC" and maintain speed in hilly terrain in your Vanagon, you'd have
to
> > > floor
> > >  >the pedal -- or at least come close -- many times to attempt to keep
> >an
> > > even
> > >  >pace.  Of course, WOT = high fuel consumption.
> > > <SNIP>
> > >  >David Stell
> > >  >Norman, OK
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  >> I made an interesting observation and would like to
> > >  >> hear views/opinions from list members.
> > >  >>
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > >  >> Having moved from a very fuel efficient Golf to the
> > >  >> After a lot of thinking and some testing this week I
> > >  >> found out why.  When I drive to work on the highway I
> > >  >> use cruise control.
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > >  >> I guess the answer is, if you want better fuel
> > >  >> consumption don't use cruise control.
> > >  >>
> > >  >> Has anyone else found this to be true or is it a well
> > >  >> known fact that I have never heard of (being that this
> > >  >> is the first car I have owned that has CC)
> > >  >>
> > >  >> Gary
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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