

| Subject: | Re: '87 Westy FS in NE Ohio |
| From: | Rod Smith |
| Date: | Mon, 13 Aug 2001 09:39:37 -0400 |
Stephen; I can relate to your sad experience. While looking for our "perfect" Westy my wife and I fell into a very similar situation. "No Rust! New paint! Runs Great!" were just a few of the owners glowing remarks as he described his van on the phone. Anyway, to make a long story short, a 5 hour ride from eastern Ky. to southern Indiana resulted in a 5 minute inspection of one of the saddest Westys we looked at during our search. Shame the way some people will waste another's time. Rod '84 Westy Canada; Ky ----- Original Message ----- > A co-member of Central Ohio Westies has been looking for one for me in his > locale. I'll post a copy of my report to him on the subject van. > > The owner says.."FS '87 Westy GL, Auto, AC, excellent shape, new engine at > 90k, 133 K now, middle seat added, kitchen in like-new condition...$7900". > > I say, "It sounds just like what I'm looking for...we'll drive up." > > This is "How not to sell your van"... report follows: > > > We drove to New Philly after church. This will probably be our last longish > trip before the baby arrives. I talked to the owner again this morning, > before leaving, verifying that it was all that I thought he had previously > told me. "Excellent mechanical shape with no body damage and no rust." says > he. > .... Four hours later (3 driving plus stops) ... > When we pulled in I looked into the open garage before I got out of our > car....I could see rough caulking completely around the entire pop top and > luggage rack seals (bummer). > > The positives were a very good interior with slight wear. The engine ran > well and shifted fine. The AC was typical for a Westy. > The pop top screen was patched, with more holes throughout; the canvas was > dirty from air/road leaks because of the above caulking. Shutting the doors > on the van caused the pop top to lift/flair because of the bad seal. He had > installed a middle seat after removing the kitchen equipment. He hadn't > bothered to retrieve the stove/fridge for our inspection; for that matter he > didn't even bother to remove any of his junk from the van. > The exterior was scratched and touched up to the point that some areas > looked like a roadmap! A large dent in the rear hatch was caused by his > Hobie Cat shifting forward on its trailer. All four bumper caps were cracked > and hanging crooked. Both bumpers were dented. But the worst was that the > bra covered damage from a deer strike resulting in a broken/missing lower > radiator grill; the area between the two grills was straightened with a ball > peen and nothing else done to it but cover it with the bra, bare metal and > all. Severe bumper seam cancer was evident and there was a two inch patch > starting on the passenger's side windshield wiper area. > > During a quick test drive and another crawl underneath I found a leaking > right head gasket, transmission seal leaks and a broken, dry left CV joint > and boot. The underside of the engine was completely rusted and showed no > sign of any maintenance. The Purolator oil filter was ancient. The valve > covers looked like they wouldn't hold up for another season. ( In > reflection, I will opine that the engine wasn't replaced at 90K...maybe the > heads were...there is no way that that engine had only 43K on it!) Passenger > car tires caused the van to heal in tight turning. Rear brakes clattered on > hard stop. > > When we arrived back I told him that it wasn't the van that I was looking > for. He then asked me to critique the van. I hesitated but thought, " What > the heck this guy just let me drive three hours"... so... I began by telling > him, "The asking price is in line for a van in excellent shape...this one is > not". Beside the above, I told him he needed to remove the shifter housing > and clean it up so the grit and grind didn't scare away most potential > buyers. The radiator fan was noisy. Oh yeh... before we started to look at > it he told me the "only two things" that he knew weren't working...a bad > driver's side window switch (it was the regulator not the switch) and the > front heater switch was bad, not the motor, just the switch. I asked him if > he had tried switching the working rear heater fan switch with the front one > to insure it was just the switch...I might as well have been speaking > Swahili. BTW he is a teacher and tennis coach. > > All told, the guy let us drive 3 hours each way based on his > misrepresentation of an excellent condition van, asking the price for it and > not preparing or knowing his own van that he has owned for twelve years. > > -- > Stephen > Chillicothe OH >
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