> Hey does anybody have the SA four light grill sold by Tiico?  I'm in need
> of a new grill and was thinking of getting the four light grill.
> Tiico has
> the best price I've seen, but does it come with everything
> needed, i.e. the
> inner lights, light buckets, wires, etc or is it just the grill?  Bus
> Depot's description sounds like it comes with everything, but it is $100
> more.

Be careful, I've seen some really questionable "grill kits" out there. Mine
come with the correct inner lights, genuine VW/Germany, which account for a
good part of the price as there is no equivalent aftermarket alternative.
Most of the kits I've seen come with either no inner lights, or some cheesy
generic "off-road" lights that can be made to work but are neither intended
for street use nor as good as the real thing. Also, the grill emblem is
different on the S.A. grill kit, and difficult to find separately; it's
included with my kit.

I sell two versions of the kit. One, the 1495A, sells for $289.95 with
listmember discount, and includes the grill, emblem, and inside driving
lights. This is pretty much all you need if you are putting the kit on a
pre-86 Vanagon.  You can splice off of the existing headlight wiring to wire
the inner lights.  As other alternatives, you can add a simple relay to
trigger the inner lights, using the power to the outer lights as the
trigger, and run the inner lights right to 12 volts. Or you can add a fog
light switch kit, ZVW 123 251, which is a genuine part, looks like your
other switches, and mounts into the blank spot on your dash console; with it
you will have separate control of the inner lights and a power indicator as
well.

The other, 1495, sells for $332.50 with listmember discount, and is intended
for '86-up conversions.  This adds a pair of aftermarket round H4 outer
headlights, since if your existing grill uses the square lights you will not
already have them.  It also includes the wiring harness plug for those
headlights, since the one for your square lights is different. You will
still need to get a pair of outer headlight buckets (or fabricate a mount).
These are the stock buckets used on '68-85 busses and Vanagons are generally
are easily found for very little cost in junkyards, given the wide range of
years that use them.

- Ron Salmon
  The Bus Depot, Inc.
  (215) 234-VWVW
  www.busdepot.com

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