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Subject:Re: America
From:John Pronk
Date:Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:13:43 -0000

Most western countries outside of the USA have "free" health care as you call it. They are not communist countries.
They believe society should share the cost of providing a basic health care level for all its citizens. This is achieved through taxes or levies of some kind. They do not believe that a basic level of health care should be directly related to the size of your wallet. The same applies to education.
By your definition the following countries are communist
UK
Germany
Australia
New Zealand
Netherlands
Switzerland
Ireland
Austria
Denmark
Sweden
Norway
France
etc etc etc.
This must mean you are the only non communist country in the world!
Regards
John.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: pederparizek 
  To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM 
  Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 20:54
  Subject: Re: America

  These people are not bums, they are communists. These are the same people that want the government to give us free health care (communism). What's next free housing, free cars, free food. Everyone needs to realize that just because it is free to you, means that someone else is paying for it. 
  Here in America we pay for what we want.
  Peace out,
  Peder
  '84 Westy 

    If I may add to what you wrote, selling on the list is allowed on the list. 
    So anyone who complains about it is on weak footing. 

    I sell things occasionally it's a service to the Vanagon community. No one 
    except communists or bums expect it for free. even when I have been broke, I 
    chose to go without rather than beg. 
    So, we bring back the meaning of the term bum-a person who is not willing to 
    work for what he wants, and thinks everyone owes him a living, or vanagon 
    parts for free. 

    But the politically correct way of addressing them is now(homeless). My Mom 
    used to warn when I was young-"you don't want to become like the bums on skid 
    road, do you"?Bums! 
    I have got a lot of vanagon stuff free-does that make me a bum? Well, we used 
    to have a junkyard, and stuff was free on the hulked vanagons heading to the 
    crusher... 

    Robert K 
    1982 Westfalia 

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