The link fails on my machine.  Oh, Well,

Mike

> From: Tobin Copley <tobin.copley@UBC.CA>
> Reply-To: Tobin Copley <tobin.copley@UBC.CA>
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 16:34:14 -0700
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Break the problem down [was: No Flag on this Van...]
>
> At 2:55 PM -0600 10/1/01, DrCory wrote:
>> OH PLEASE! Lets get a little rational...
>> No monetary system has done as much to forward the good of mankind than
>> 'capitalism'  The very fact we have VW Vans (mandatory content) to drive
>> around in is a result of 'capitalism'  And all governments cannot be cast
>> as equivalent!  Democracy has done more to raise people to equality than
>> any other form of government known to mankind.
>>
>>> Only thing I strongly disagree with is the 'capitalist government'.
>>> Doesn't matter what they brand themselves, they're all politicians, and not
>>> even in the good [relatively speaking] sense.  Scumbags.
>
> Ok ok ok.  I really don't want to get dragged into this (but here I
> go), but as a somewhat rational Vanagon driver (ObVanagon) and
> researcher with a weakness for systems approaches and simulation
> modeling, may I suggest that war-hawks and doves alike interested in
> the "no flag" thread have a look at the simulation model and
> discussion contained in this admittedly simple but interesting model:
>
> http://www.hps-inc.com/Terrorism_Story_Download.asp
>
> Just trying to be a little constructive and move the content of
> discourse forward a bit.  Apologies to Gerry, gerry, and Tom.
>
> Simulation models for vanagon mechanical failure frequency, anyone?  ;-)
>
> <back to lurking>
>
> T.
>
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