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Subject:Re: Fuel pump help
From:Stan Wilder
Date:Wed, 10 Oct 2001 08:25:00 -0500

Help me out guys,  Gary VanWeerd   strgazr1@excite.com is having some
problems after I sold him a used fuel pump. In defense: the pump works
good, tested it ten minutes before I shipped it. I think Gary has some
other problems and I've tried to guide him through but I may have left
something out.
To read the series of communications, start at the bottom of the page.
Please respond directly with him, I'm not sure he's on the list.

Stan Wilder

On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 08:00:16 -0500 Stan Wilder <wilden1@juno.com writes:
 #1. Double check that you have the brown wire plugged to the -
 (negative side) of the pump
 #2. Check your fuses (could have blown one while testing the
 system).
 #3. PIA but take two connectors loose from your Double Relay, one
 pair black or chrome boxes at upper left of you engine bay. Relpug
 them. Take special note of the ground wire, it hangs loose from the
 bundle on the left. Be sure it is grounded properly. The white
 jumper wire on mine was shorted from being squeezed under the relay
 and caused a mal-function so take a good look at all of your engine
 bay connections.
 #4. The pump should not run *ever without the engine running*, AFM
 turns it off when the engine looses vacuum (safety factor). The pump
 gets momentary power when the engine is cranked and then the AFM
 picks the control up. See if both push on connector wires are
 connected to your starter. Some starter have two terminals other
 only one but check it bu un plugging it and re plugging it.
 #5. I'm guilty of this one, be sure your AFM is plugged into the
 wiring harness, I always forget after installing a new air filter.
 I tested the pump before I shipped it so I know it pumps like
 crazy.
 Was this van running when you got it (it it was bought recently)?
 You have an electrical problem that I can't diagnose from this great
 distance.
 I think you do need to test both your old pump and the new pump by
 putting a 2 feet piece of hose on each end and running them out of
 the vehicle. Just put the big hose in a can of gas and the little
 hose in an empty can. (you can leave the filter on and plug the line
 from your tank with a bolt).
 I'll be glad to hel;p where I can after you've done the check list
 above.

 Stan

 On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 03:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Gary VanWeerd
 <strgazr1@excite.com writes:
  I think i'm doing somthing wrong here. I'm not getting any fuel out
  of the pump. I've got a good stream comming out of the tank and through

 the NEW fuel filter. but nothing is comming OUT of it.
  I've got power going into it. I've checked with my owm meter.
  I get power when i touch  + & - together and someone cranks the
  motor but i don't when i disconect the ground and and use the meter in
  between the - and the fram. I'm at a lose Any advise?  GARY

  On Mon, 8 Oct 2001 20:12:47 -0500, Stan Wilder wrote:

    Be sure that the brown ground wire goes to the negative
 terminal  (they are marked + and -) but they are hard to see. (brown is
always
  ground on your Vanagon).
    There aren't any rebuilt pumps. You just have to search Foreign
   wrecking yards and pick up a spare from an 81 to 91 Vanagon/
Westy/Syncro.
  Try to  get the little rubber shock mounts from the mounting bracket
  too.
    They need at least 28 pounds and they operate about 32 PSI.
    Check all of your fuel lines for leaks and if they need  replacement
be
    sure to use fuel injector line (not just any fuel line that  will
fit).
    Be sure that the brown ground wire from your double relay is making
    ground (sometimes doesn't when its just squeezed under the screw
  under the relay). Its the double relay that starts your fuel pump when
  you turn the engine over, it also turns on your cold start injector
anytime the
    starter is turning over. Replace your fuel filter when you install
the pump.
    Hope everything works ok and it starts and runs for you.

    Stan

I Got the pump today. It arrived in very good condtion. Haven't installed
it yet, I hope to find time in the morn.
Now if the FI works it should start. (I hope)
I want to thank you for your honesty in this sale.
My old pump doesn't work. thinking of it as a core charge in the future.
Now on to the next step in my retro project. *The Fuel injection system*

Thanks Stan..
                             Gary
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