

| Subject: | Re: Diesel Exapansion Tank Problem Solution |
| From: | Bryan Belman |
| Date: | Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:23:24 -0800 |
Well Myron, I have two reason for you. 1. Way to much work. 2. I have my old 1.6l motor that most likely needs rings and head gasket. You are welcome to it. Need to pick it up or I can frieght it to you. I live in NJ. Bryan Belman Pt. Pleasant, NJ. Let me know if interested. --- Myron Lind <mdlind@RICA.NET> wrote: > Hi Maynard, I was glad to hear you made it home in > great shape! > > I have a general question about all the cooling > hoses on the > diesels. Has anyone ever welded or brazed all (or > some) the angles > and "T"s out of steel/copper/stainless, leaving > mostly straight > hose sections that could be sourced almost anywhere? > I realize > that the engine needs to "move" in relation to the > coolant pipes > and expansion tanks (or they could maybe be mounted > on the motor > itself?). Aside from the difficulty of the actual > fabrication, > what would be good reasons to NOT try this? > > Myron Lind > 81 Westy > 82 Westy diesel, wanting a motor > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Maynard Southard <echomhs@GIS.NET> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: Diesel Exapansion Tank Problem Solution > > > > I have posted a couple of pictures of two > different OEM diesel > Vanagon > > Expansion Tank/Hose set ups. See: > > > http://www.gis.net/~southard/Projects/VanagonCoolantHoses.htm > > > > Until I acquired my '86 Diesel Double Cab, I had > wondered > exactly how the later > > "plastic pipe" setup differed from my '82 metal > pipe setup. I > hope these > > pictures help others understand the difference. > > > > Maynard Southard (OvO) '79 > > '86 Double Cab Diesel "Col. Potter" > > '82 Westy Diesel "Reinhardt" > > '82 Vanagon GL Diesel "Sluggo" > > '93 EV GL "Klinger" > > '00 Golf GLS TDI "WooHoo" > > '84 Jetta GL TD "Donor" > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:07 PM, Michael > Snow > <mwsnow@HOME.COM> wrote: > > > Ken, we are thinking along the same lines. I > want to do this > to my '82 > > > diesel. From what I can see in ETKA, the > '84-'85 diesel > Vanagons use > > > the same plastic coolant pipes as the > waterboxers. Hoses that > are made > > > for the plastic pipes will not work with the > steel coolant > pipes found > > > on the diesel. The plastic pipes are much > larger at the ends > than the > > > older steel version. > > > > > > In addition, the '82 diesel has different steel > coolant pipes > than the > > > '83. They are the same diameter, but they do > not terminate in > the same > > > location in the engine bay. It appears to be an > all or > nothing > > > conversion. The hoses, expansion tank, and > coolant pipes must > all be > > > from the same year vehicle. I agree that this > is a worthwhile > > > conversion, but the expenses and the amount of > work involved > are greater > > > than a simple hose/tank replacement. > > > > > > Mike Snow > > > '82 Westfalia diesel > > > '83 ASI diesel > > > > > > > > > KENWILFY@AOL.COM wrote: > > > > > > > The diesel Vanagon owners on this list know > that some of > their coolant > > > > parts have become no longer available. One of > the parts > that is the > > > > most elusive is the original diesel coolant > tank. These are > no longer > > > > made and any that you may come across would be > NOS only. > This has been > > > > a problem for a while and people have been > epoxying their > old tanks or > > > > buying used tanks to keep their vans going. > Now I have a > possible > > > > solution. > > > > > > > > I have found that with the use of a newer > style big hose > (that large > > > > hose that has two "T" connections built into > it) and a newer > style lower > > > > hose, you can retrofit in the expansion tank > from an '84-85 > Vanagon. > > > > These tanks are much cheaper than the old > tanks ($29 vs > $95) and much > > > > easier to get. I have the parts available for > someone to do > this > > > > retrofit. Here is what is needed: > > > > 1- Expansion Tank w/cap- $29 > > > > 1- Upper coolant hose (big one with all the > "T"s)- $120 > > > > 1- Lower coolant hose- $90 > > > > 1- Sender for coolant level (needed to plug > the hole for > this in the > > > > tank)- $9 > > > > Your total before shipping- $248 > > > > > > > > The mounting of the expansion tank is a little > different, > however if you > > > > could get a bracket from a junk Vanagon > (84-91) or just > fabricate one > > > > yourself the mounting is quite simple. > > > > > > > > This is just a suggestion. If you balk at > replacing these > hoses along > > > > with your tank, understand that at this point > your hoses are > probably > > > > almost 20 years old (if they have never been > replaced) and > one of these > > > > hoses (the larger one) is no longer available > at the dealer. > Now would > > > > be the time to replace these hoses as well > since their > availability is > > > > not going to increase over time, only the > opposite. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ken Wilford > > > > John 3:16 > > > > www.vanagain.com > > > > Phone: (856)-765-1583 > > > > Fax: (856)-327-2242 > > ===== Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ 90 Audi 200 FWD (Money Pit) 82 Westy Diesel (1.9l NA...running good) 70 Type 1 Std. beetle (Bahama bug) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com
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