Thanks for answering Alfred,

Well, I got it started and went to the gas station.  Wouldn't start there so
I cleaned the contacts to and inside the black box above the coil, no help.
I was towed home.

Temp II sensor?  Who's got one and how much?

Mike

> From: Alfred Bagdan <abagdan@POWERSURFR.COM>
> Reply-To: Alfred Bagdan <abagdan@POWERSURFR.COM>
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 15:24:22 -0700
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Van Gremlins
>
> Hi Mike,
> I had a similar problem once.  It turned out the TempII sensor.  Van started
> when cold,  ran rough when hot (intermittently), would not start when hot
> (most times).
> After replacing the sensor, van ran great again.
> However with the vanagon, it could be any number of other problems.  If you
> are fixing by trial and error,  replacing the temp2 sensor is one of the
> cheapest parts to start with, especially with the symptoms you have.
>
> Alfred
> 85 Westy
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mike miller" <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 12:52 PM
> Subject: Van Gremlins
>
>
>> Volks,
>>
>> My son and I took the 85 Westy on a trip.  Many times it has kind of
>> hesitated at about 100 miles, then it smooths out and is fine.
>>
>> This time it started at 50 miles and got worse.  Had to go down a gear
> lower
>> than usual to get up the mountains.  Stopped for dinner and it wouldn't
>> start afterward.  Starter spun it very well, no fire at all.
>>
>> Checked for spark and it was weak but there.  Fuel pump made it noise on
>> turning the key.  Tried it several more times, nothing, no effort to kick
>> over at all.
>>
>> Had a spare coil [Bosche from the last episode of missing which turned out
>> to be plugs wires] plugged it in, much better spark, no help with
> starting.
>>
>> Tried spraying carb cleaner into the intake [removed the air filter]
>> nothing.  Spent the night in the parking lot.  Started the next morning
> ran
>> like a tank until it ran out of gas 10 miles from home.  Put gas in and it
>> started and ran fine.  Got home and then tried to start it and it did the
>> same no fire at all trick that it did at the restaurant the night before.
>>
>> My son's guess was that the first coil was bad [new Bosche] and when we
> put
>> the old coil in the engine was flooded from the earlier tries to start it.
>>
>> But that doesn't explain why it's doing it again.  He still thinks fuel
>> delivery problems, my guess is gremlins.
>>
>> Anybody else got an idea.
>>
>