In a message dated 12/17/2001 12:14:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM writes:

> Power Window Trouble

       Joel, STOP trying to move the window NOW !  Remove the motor and cable 
mechanism.  If your lucky the cable may still be OK but wound up and tangeled 
in the winding mechanism.  Most likely what has happened is one or both of 
the PLASTIC cables guides and the PLASTIC corner guides of the cable track 
mechanism has broken or the PLASTIC rivet used to hold the guides in place on 
some models have let go.  If the cable is not frayed, remove it and 
straighten it out and rewind it on the spool.  If the PLASTIC corner guides 
are still good just re-rivet them in place with METAL rivets.  If the PLASTIC 
guides are broken you will need to find a used unit to get them from or just 
replace the winding mechanism with a good used one.  Replace the PLASTIC 
rivets with metal rivets on the used one if they are PLASTIC before 
installing.  Good Luck !  Been there a few times !
       PLASTIC, NYLON or whatever that stuff is, doesn't work too well when 
the window is frozen shut and the PLASTIC stuff is brittle from the COLD.  
The motor is stronger and it always wins !

Happy Holidays��

Frank Condelli
Almonte, Ontario, Canada
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