Thanks I tried that and guess what; it didnt work!  (I
heard the relays under the dash tick a couple times
like I was turning my key) so that means it IS my
starter.. :(  boohoo.. well Schucks has them for $127
but it will take a couple of days to get :(   I am
hoping it might be the starter cylenoid (sp?)  I
understand that is cheaper but I havent been able to
find one here in Kent, Washington.  If anyone has one
that works they want to sell for cheap or knows where
I can get one here in Seattle area let me know!

Thanks!
David
'91 Vanapaperweight

--- Joel Walker <jwalker17@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Hey all!  Ok just to check to see to make sure it
> is
> > or is not the ignition switch that is causing my
> no
> > start problems is it possible to hotwire the van
> to
> > see if the starter will go?   if so which wires?
>
> hmm. never though of that! :)
>
> ok, from the bentley (which may NOT have anything to
> do with Reality
> in your bus) ...
>
> your ignition switch should have the following
> wires:
> - terminal 30 - red (goes off to the battery, to get
> power)
> - terminal 50 - red/black (red with black stripe).
> that runs from the
> switch to the starter and some indicator dash
> lights.
> - terminal X - black/yellow wire. that goes off to
> the headlight
> switch.
> - terminal 15 - black wire. two wires, actually. one
> goes off to the
> dash, and the alternator warning light and other
> warning lights. the
> other one goes off to the ignition coil.
> - termianl SU - gray/black wire. goes off to the
> seatbelt warning
> light.
>
> now, as i see it, to make the starter spin, you'll
> need to jumper
> (with a largish wire) from terminal 30 to terminal
> 50. but you do NOT
> want to maintain that jumper for any longer than it
> takes the engine
> to start up.
> and to keep the bus running after the engine starts,
> i THINK you'd
> need to jumper terminal 30 with terminal  15. but
> that i'm not sure
> of. as i dimly recall, from years and years ago,
> with old fords and
> chevies, you had to jumper two wires (twist them
> together was what we
> did), then hold two more wires together long enough
> for the starter to
> work. then you let the 2nd pair separate. i'm not
> sure the switches
> work that way nowadays ... haven't had to hotwire a
> car in 40 years.
> ;)
>
> good luck! hope it helps.
> joel
>

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