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Subject:Re: Subject: Fuel octane
From:Stan Wilder
Date:Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:06:43 -0600

Well, Unca Joel. Tax time is coming up and I'm sure glad you're not
keeping my books.
With absolute accurate records like yours the IRS would decide right away
that I was hiding something.

Stan

On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 17:14:53 -0600 Joel Walker <jwalker17@EARTHLINK.NET>
writes:
> > All of this should be considered along with the driving
> environment.
> It
> > seems that an engine under higher and prolonged loads, such as a
> > hill-climbing Westy, is probably going to benefit from the more
> expensive
> > gasoline.
>
> in my experience, the octane makes no difference in MY buses ... not
> a
> nickel's worth of difference. over the years, i've tried to even up
> the tankfuls of the three octanes available in my area, just for
> testing purposes. but since i'm cheap, the 87 octane usually has
> twice
> as many tankfuls as the other two octanes. ;)
>
> here's the results ...
>
> 1988 Vanagon
> Thursday   27 Dec 2001                                         Page
> 1
>
> Brand   Oct Tanks    Gals     Cost     Miles    MPG $/g   $/mi
> Amoco   R87    46   592.0   654.38  12,077.3 20.4 1.11  0.05
> Bp          R87    46   574.5   627.48  11,577.0 20.2 1.09  0.05
> Chevron  R87    46   617.6   689.15  12,214.0 19.8 1.12  0.06
> Exxon     R87    46   617.5   679.13  12,270.3 19.9 1.10  0.06
> Shell       R87    46   595.6   665.00  11,553.2 19.4 1.12  0.06
> Unocal    R87    43   580.1   618.57  11,418.2 19.7 1.07  0.05
> Z-other    R87     2    27.0    28.62        533.6 19.8 1.06  0.05
> Z-start     R87     1    15.7    14.10            0.0  0.0  0.90
> 14.10
>       Total        276 3,620.0 3,976.43  71,643.6 19.8 1.10  0.06
>
> Amoco   R89    23   300.2   343.26    5,774.0  19.2 1.14  0.06
> Bp          R89    23   313.6   367.39    6,231.3  19.9 1.17  0.06
> Chevron  R89    24   309.1   375.84    6,283.3  20.3 1.22  0.06
> Exxon     R89    23   297.8   345.06    5,655.4  19.0 1.16  0.06
> Shell       R89    23   301.6   353.11    5,997.0  19.9 1.17  0.06
> Unocal    R89    21   269.1   311.73    5,332.1  19.8 1.16  0.06
>       Total         137 1,791.4 2,096.39  35,273.1 19.7 1.17  0.06
>
> Amoco   P92    25   333.5   440.92   6,605.9 19.8 1.32  0.07
> Bp          P92    25   308.9   397.89   6,139.3 19.9 1.29  0.06
> Chevron  P92    25   316.2   418.87   6,377.1 20.2 1.32  0.07
> Citgo       P92     1       9.7     15.52     101.7 10.5 1.60  0.15
> Exxon     P92    25   315.5   410.99   6,427.0 20.4 1.30  0.06
> Shell       P92    25   325.5   413.68   6,561.0 20.2 1.27  0.06
> Unocal    P92    21   274.1   349.98   5,581.4 20.4 1.28  0.06
> Z-other   P92     1        3.5      4.28        55.6 15.9 1.22
> 0.08
>       Total       148 1,886.9 2,452.13  37,849.0 20.1 1.30  0.06
>
> Totals            561 7,298.3 8,524.95 144,765.7
> Averages per Tank       13.0   15.20     258.0 19.8 1.17  0.06
>
> the z-start is the very first tank i put into the bus. i separated
> it
> out like that to keep from lowering the stats for the brand/octane.
> z-other is off-brands that i used over the years ... when i
> couldn't
> find a station that i had a credit card for. :)
>
> to my untrained statistical eye, there ain't a bit of difference
> between them. now, it LOOKS like the premium is slightly higher.
> and
> if you didn't know me, you'd think that, too ... but my tendency is
> to
> fill up with premium only before  a trip, so the mpg is a bit
> skewed
> that way: the 91/92/93 (all condensed into 92 octane) gets a tad
> more
> highway miles than, say, the 87 octane (which gets used mostly on
> around-town trips).
> and i don't think that 0.5 mpg would be a 'significant' result, in
> this more-or-less unscientific test of mine. too many variables, i
> think. :)
>
> anyway, as far as i'm concerned, in MY buses, using the gasolines
> available in MY area of the country, and with MY driving style,
> there
> ain't enough difference to warrant use of the more expensive
> gasolines.
>
> so why do i do it? :) old habits die hard ... i kinda semi sorta
> somewhat think or believe that maybe, just maybe, the higher octane
> fuels 'clean' the injectors or something. oh, and i'm trying to be
> fair in the test. yeah, that's it! ;)
>
> unca joel
> 1988 GL
> 1987 GL Camper
> 1991 Carat
>
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