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Subject:Re: higher octane needs
From:mike miller
Date:Fri, 28 Dec 2001 22:05:35 -0800

They changed the octane definition since our vans were built.  regular fuel
is enough octane for a stock engine.  Lilley has to run 100 LL av gas.

Mike

> From: Chris Holtz <holtzwagen@HOTMAIL.COM>
> Reply-To: Chris Holtz <holtzwagen@HOTMAIL.COM>
> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 21:28:56 -0800
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: higher octane needs
>
> Forgive me if I missed this in an earlier post, but my bus has a stock decal
> at the gas cap that says to use 91 Octane gas.
> Am I wasting my money?
> Chris Holtz
> 85 Westy - "Gromit"
>
>
>> From: Paul Mayfield <paulmayfield@EARTHLINK.NET>
>> Reply-To: Paul Mayfield <paulmayfield@EARTHLINK.NET>
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: higher octane needs
>> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 19:47:43 +0000
>>
>> Please correct me if any of this is untrue/incorrect!
>>
>> Bentley states on the back cover:
>> -----------------------------
>> Gasoline octane requirement
>> US Cost of Living rating (CLC)...87
>> CLC rating method. (RON+MON)/2 = 87
>> MON = Motor Octane Number
>> RON = Research Octane Number
>> -----------------------------
>> As far as Vanagon engines are concerned,
>> regular 87 octane gas has more energy than high octane
>> gas and produces more power -in a stock engine-
>> because it is not diluted with additives that produce
>> much less energy than raw gas.
>>
>> The only difference between High octane and Regular
>> are additives: anti-knock and cleaning agents.
>>
>> As far as I know (and I may be wrong on this) Vanagon
>> engines with digifant do not have the capability to make
>> use of high octane gas. I've heard some high performance
>> high compression engines have preignition sensors
>> that adjust to lower power levels when 87 octane is used.
>> (porsche,corvette?)
>>
>> I have a friend who owns a Chevron station.
>> He has a stable of very expensive collector cars- all
>> paid for with profits from overpriced premium gas.
>> Suckers, he calls em.  30 cents a gallon suckers.
>>
>> Flamesuit on.
>>
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