

| Subject: | Re: tiico conversion vs. other I4 conversions |
| From: | Data Services |
| Date: | Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:41:13 -0500 |
I noticed all the parts on my Tiico conversion were the familiar 9 digit VW code. If you can get the numbers, you can get the parts. I don't believe any of them are now obsolete. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Stann" <ChrisS@INFORMS.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 6:17 PM Subject: Re: tiico conversion vs. other I4 conversions > I am not very familiar with the laws concerning internatinal car-parts > sales, but this is my thought: > > The needed parts must have a part number that exists in the South African VW > part books, therefore the parts are available, right? > > I know it's not that simple, but couldn't you simply order the parts from a > SA VW dealer? > > Chris. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf > Of selten2 > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 4:36 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: tiico conversion vs. other I4 conversions > > > I have talked to Peter about the availability of just the > components you mentioned and he says that he is not able to convince his > suppliers to sell the needed parts piece meal. If the Intake, motor mounts > and oil pan were available , there would be a lot more conversions. Even the > ECU and harness should be available. Anyone who works on modern Audi's and > VWs would have no problem with the Motronic managment system. Unfortunately > unless you buy a kit you are not going to see these pieces. Anyone out there > have alternate connections in SA? > Tom Czerniak > 1987 Westy w/tiico > 181200 on Van > 9200 on new engine > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kitzmann" <kitzmann@EXIS.NET> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 3:05 PM > Subject: Re: tiico conversion vs. other I4 conversions > > > > >I have seen a number of members postings and vendors sites that talk > about > > the I4 conversion. The only one that I have yet seen that doesn't have > the > > engine protruding into the van or modification of the deck lid is the > > tiico. Why? What is different about their conversion than other > companies > > / homebrew conversions? > > >-- > > > > There are two differences between the ones that protrude and ones that > > don't. Using say a 1.8L VW it will not protrude if using a diesel > > bellhousing or something equivalent that mounts the engine at something > > like 54 degrees. Using this same engine mounted at the 15 degrees that it > > was mounted in a Golf or Jetta and you protrude. The other major > > difference is the confiquration of the intake and exhaust manifolds. This > > is why the 2.0L crossflow as used in A3 and A4 Jettas protrude because > even > > at 54 degrees mounting angle the intake manifold sticks up out of the > > engine bay. Tiico uses a 2.0L block that has the intake and exhaust on > the > > same side, just like the 1.8L engine in the A2 Golf/Jetta. The engine is > > mounted at the 54 degree point and so the engine doesn't protrude. One > > additional benefit of the Tiico is that the intake manifold was > > specifically made for the application and doesn't hit the wall of the > > engine bay. This of course is the same as those used on the SA Vanagons, > > so I don't see why someone couldn't start importing these things for us. > > If you could get the manifolds and a diesel bellhousing or adapter plate > > you could pretty inexpensively install a 1.8L VW or 2.0 Audi bubble block > > without much difficulty at all. > > Hope that clears somethings up, > > Dave K.
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