In a message dated 1/6/02 6:24:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, jklun@GJ.NET
writes:

<< I was also under the impression that my
 Vanagon would be fantastic on ice and snow- >>
 is it just me or are ALL the presnt and former diesel vanagon owners
snickering?
I don't KNOW why, but the diesels just GO in the snow...I've even got video
of me *pulling* a short wheelbase land rover UP a snow covered hill that was
so steep the van stalled out in 1st gear (oops!) and it NEVER SPUN A WHEEL!
When I finally got home I ran the whole mess around the house..6-8 inches of
snow..it went 200+ ft and finally stopped moving when the ground got too
soft...