

| Subject: | Re: A Snow Story (Whoa-vanagon!!!) and Lessons Learned |
| From: | Isaac Taylor |
| Date: | Mon, 7 Jan 2002 01:15:56 -0500 |
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Snow" <dieselvanagon@HOTMAIL.COM> >I know that rally cars run very soft suspensions in snow and ice stages, >and I believe this is at least partially to alleviate this problem. Soft >means that all four tires are carrying their share of the load, given >a low enough CG... With a rally car, it's not so much about "carrying" part of the load, as it is getting traction. Most competitive rally drivers are intentionally spinning the car (with left-foot braking and oversteer), then catching the rear end with opposite lock, and powering out of the corner. With 300-600 horsepower. If you can't put the power down (because, say: an outside drive wheel is locked, spinning, or hanging off the road... and/or the inside is locked or lifted due to body roll) then you'll slide in a nice straight line right through the corner, and into the angry nature. In my experience, many rally DNFs occur because the car has lost some power (and/or grip) due to equipment failure, but the driver is still throwing the car sideways into corners; without the power to get out, you go off. I guess my point is that the Vanagon doesn't have the power in the first place. So without redesigning the suspension, the first priorities are increasing traction, and reducing wheelspin -- studs and chains are great, but a good tread design(and light right foot) will do wonders... while a few hundred pounds of pig iron over the drive axle will be a revelation. Isaac in Cambridge
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