steve, i never said i wasn't going to pay you.  i said i wanted to
discuss who got paid again with al.  and per my last email to you
saturday, i said if you would (publicly or privately) withdraw your
accusations about "stolen property" (so i wouldn't later have any
problems, if it came up) i would send your money today.  i didn't get to
my mail yesterday, so i don't know what was your response.

and, this is certainly not the type of discussion we should be having in
a public forum.  you can make accusations and counter-accusations to try
to get your will accomplished, but in the end it just makes you look
foolish.  i will read any mail from you tonight will respond
appropriately.  i apologise to the group that i ever posted my note and
inflamed steve's vitriol...i was just confused by his statement,
especially the stolen property bit (as i am the one getting those
springs from al).  i will not respond to any more postings from steve
publicly on this issue.

bill kasper
'87 syncro westfalia
santa cruz, ca.

On Sunday, January 13, 2002, at 10:59 , Steve Schwenk wrote:

> I hope he tries to sue me.  The court would only order him to pay him,
> which would be great.  Truth is a defense to Libel/slander.  He has had
> my springs for 3 months and refuses to pay for them or return them.
> Bill won't pay me for them either, at least as of today, despite his
> note below.  He is paying Al for them instead.  Al never paid me for
> them.
>
> I have never had ANY problem with the 50 other people i have done
> business with.  Yet I am not the first listee to end up in a mess like
> this with Al.  He threatened to have Detlev arrested, to sue him, etc,
> And his second engine swap also ended in acrimony.  Get your money up
> front and get any deal in writing with this guy!
> __________________________________________
> Uh-oh... I smell a libel suit, if Al Knolls knows a hungry lawyer...
>
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>
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>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf
>
>  Of il cikaspers
>  Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 3:19 PM
>  To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>  Subject: Re: Where is Al Knoll?
>
>> Al knoll has made off with a set of rears springs that
>> belong to me.  Last I heard he was trying to sell them
>> to somebody.  I loaned him an extra set 3 months ago,
>> and have been trying to get them back for two months.
>> But Al just blows me off and refuses to give them back
>> or respond to my emails.
>>
>> Please do not buy any rear springs from Al Knoll.  they
>> are stolen property.  I offer a reward for their safe
>> return.
>> Steve
>
>  steve, why are you accusing al of "making off with [your] set of rears
>  [sic] springs"?
>
>  aren't these the new rears i am getting from al and paying you for? my
>  understanding is that i would get whichever set of springs (new or the
>  extra set you "loaned" him) he chose not to use, and that he would give
>
>  them to me after i paid you when i returned from england. this is my
>  understanding as per our discussion over the last couple of months. am
> i
>  missing something?
>
>  bill kasper
>  '87 syncro westfalia
>  santa cruz, ca.
>