

| Subject: | Re: Bleeding the front radiator |
| From: | Gerald Masar |
| Date: | Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:57:46 -0700 |
Just my opinion, but I think he meant 50% TO 70%, with 50-50 mix being ideal for MOST situations. I have lost rack of what years we are talking about here, but the thermostat by-pass valve is on the later years and does just that. It only moves about 90 degrees or so. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben McCafferty" <ben@KBMC.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 11:18 AM Subject: Re: Bleeding the front radiator > Hmmm....well, I guess the Bentley has got it all wrong then? Your procedure > does sound pretty good, but I am at a loss on the "thermostat bypass valve" > you mention--I assume it's a way to manually open the thermostat? That > would be perfect.... > On raising the front, I have always assumed that was to get air bubbles to > work their way to the bleeder screw. How does your method take care of > that? > I am not suggesting that he add cold water to the warm engine--room > temperature mixed with coolant, then diluted in the tank, will not cause > warped heads. > Isn't 70% coolant WAY too much? I thought the range was something like > 45-55%, or maybe 40-60% > Anyway, I'd like to hear more... > tx, > bmc :) > "Faith will move mountains, but you'd better bring a shovel...." > > > > From: Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET> > > Reply-To: Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET> > > Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:06:51 -0500 > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Subject: Re: Bleeding the front radiator > > > > NO NO NO! Do not warm up the engine. A warm engine makes the coolant > > turn to vapor with the coolant system open. This makes bleeding > > difficult. Also, never add coolant to a hot running engine. Helps make > > warped heads. Also, there is no need to raise the front. In fact it > > makes things harder as you have to raise the coolant that much further > > to bleed the system. Try this procedure. > > > > 1) Engine should be dead cold. If not successful bleeding in 10 minutes, > > Walk away, have lunch, beer etc, come back later. > > > > 2) Prepare coolant supply, have ready. Pre-mixing will make it easier to > > keep proper ratio. > > > > 3) Open thermostat bypass valve and valves to both heater cores. > > > > 4) Fill main reservoir as much as possible. Allow time for as much > > coolant to fill into engine as possible. > > > > 5) Start engine. Use something to hold engine speed around 2,000 to > > 2,500 rpm. > > > > 6) Open radiator bleeder (partner will help). > > > > 7) Continue to fill cooling system while air is being expelled from > > bleeder and reservoir. > > > > 8) When both flow water steadily, close radiator bleeder, then reinstall > > cooling pressure cap, (It was tested and know to be good?). You can also > > close the bypass now. > > > > 9) Allow engine to return to normal idle speed. > > > > 10) Return heater valves to where you want them. Test system. Make sure > > radiator fan works. Don't forget to top off the expansion tank behind > > the license plate. Any residual air will eventually work its way out. If > > not, than you a problem. > > > > 11) After van is operated for a while, test coolant concentration to > > make certain you have the proper mixture, (50-70%). > > > > Dennis > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > > Of Ben McCafferty > > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 11:23 AM > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Subject: Re: Bleeding the front radiator > > > > Raise the front of the van 10cm or 40cm, depending on which version of > > Bentley you believe, warm up the van until the thermostat opens, hold > > the > > engine at 2000 RPM with the pressure cap off, and crack the bleed screw > > on > > the radiator. It's a 13mm on the passenger side, top. Don't take is > > all > > the way out, just loosen it. Add coolant/water mixture as needed in the > > tank, and watch the stream coming out of the radiator. When it runs > > free of > > bubbles, you can close the screw. Make sure to close the pressure cap > > before you drop the engine below 2000 RPM or it will blow hot coolant > > everywhere. > > > > Some guys do this process several times over a week or so to make sure > > you > > get all the bubbles. > > > > tx, > > bmc :) > > "Faith will move mountains, but you'd better bring a shovel...." > > > > > >> From: Chris Winesette <Chriswinesette@AOL.COM> > >> Reply-To: Chriswinesette@AOL.COM > >> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:53:32 EST > >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >> Subject: Bleeding the front radiator > >> > >> What is the best way to bleed the front radiator? > >> > >
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