

| Subject: | Re: Air Conditioner |
| From: | Stan Wilder |
| Date: | Sat, 30 Mar 2002 22:50:41 -0600 |
I'm not knocking any gadget that anybody wants to try. I'm a fresh air nut, shame we haven't got any in my town ........ have to get about 60 miles out to get fresh air. I built a crazy little air vent that worked good for me. http://williamwareagency.com/forsale/stanvan/vent.htm and that doofus AC that is in the third picture. I'd think that you could build a good cooler with a tube type oil cooler circulating water that was in a ice chest packed with ice, use a little sink pump in a coil of copper tubing in the cooler to keep the water flowing and a good Chinese PepBoys fan to blow past the oil cooler. What a mess though. Stan On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 20:23:11 -0800 phil stanhope <napszeerf@YAHOO.COM> writes: > But what if you can make your own Ice for short trips? > Did you check out this link: > http://www.swampy.net/im30.html > It has a BIG separate Igloo cooler that it pipes cool > water from. That cooler looks like it holds 10 gallons > of ice. > THey quote: > " a 48 quart Ice Chest filled with ice will give from > 4 to 5 hours of cooling. The water contained in your > Ice Chest is cooled by ice or ice substitutes like > reusable Freeze Packs which are available in many > local stores in most areas. Another great feature is > that you can always get cooler air from an IceStrMystr > than a standard Evaporative Cooler, even after the ice > melts. This is posible because of the two stage > cooling process. A fully charged 105 amp hour deep > cycle battery should last from 8 to 12 hours on low or > medium speeds without charging." > > > > > > --- Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM> wrote: > > At a $1.29 a bag you could pay for a good Toyota in > > a month of driving in > > Texas when we get 30 consecutive days over 100 f. > > I always try to include that little (f) when I give > > temperatures cause > > the Canadians are scared that Texas is hell. > > > > Stan > > > > On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 19:40:48 -0800 mike > > <mwmiller@CWNET.COM> writes: > > > Probably work great but stopping every 30-40 > > minutes for more ice > > > would get > > > to be a drag pretty quickly I think. > > > > > > Mike > > > :>) > > > > > > > From: phil stanhope <napszeerf@YAHOO.COM> > > > > Reply-To: phil stanhope <napszeerf@YAHOO.COM> > > > > Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 18:55:49 -0800 > > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > > > Subject: Re: Air Conditioner > > > > > > > > Has anyone heard of these ice assisted > > evaporating AC > > > > units? They plug into your cigarette lighter and > > they > > > > say it only needs to be refilled with ice every > > 30-40 > > > > minutes for maximim cooling. > > > > > > > > http://www.swampy.net/icemystr.html > > > > http://www.swampy.net/im30.html > > > > > > > > Snake Oil or?? > > > > > > > > Phil84' Westy Tiico (The Millenium Falcon) > > > > 60' Morris Mini1340CC > > > > 84' Westfalia Wolfsburg edition--FOR SALE-SE > > > > VENDE!!!!!!(Florida Title/2nd owner) > > > > AC, PS, 4spd. Super clean interior, Captains > > chairs, > > > > rare removeable center bench seat for 6 > > passenger > > > > capability. Body has some rusty seams > > > > Rolling Chassis-(Has NO engine)-Perfect for a > > > > conversion project!!! Tiico? Subaru? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM> wrote: > > > >> Back in the early sixties Chrysler came out > > with > > > >> their electronic > > > >> ignition, a turbine car that ran on Wesson oil > > or > > > >> anything clean enough > > > >> not to clog the injectors. Ford came out with > > > >> Overhead can 427 engines > > > >> and GM was experimenting with an Automotive AC > > unit > > > >> that cooked the Freon > > > >> in/on/around/near the Exhaust manifold and > > powered > > > >> the required heat to > > > >> force the Freon gas through the system. Problem > > was > > > >> the Freon got to over > > > >> 600 degrees in about fifteen minutes and the > > > >> pressures became > > > >> extraordinary. The extreme pressure literally > > cut > > > >> the orifices out of the > > > >> regulators and exploded the condenser and > > > >> evaporators. They continued > > > >> working on the system until 1965 to be > > installed on > > > >> the newly released > > > >> Toronado. The first Toronado that came through > > the > > > >> dealership I was > > > >> working with had appendages cast into the > > exhaust > > > >> manifolds to mount this > > > >> system but the innovative system had been > > abandoned > > > >> by release time. > > > >> So there have been a lot of people working on a > > zero > > > >> horsepower AC unit > > > >> for many years. > > > >> > > > >> Stan Wilder > > > >> > > > >> On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 21:18:40 +0800 David > > Wilhite > > > >> <dnmwilhite@EARTHLINK.NET> writes: > > > >>> I use the hang in window air conditioner on my > > van > > > >> when camping > > > >>> during the summer myself, but have always been > > > >> thinking of other > > > >>> solutions. > > > >>> > > > >>> I was wondering if anybody has considered the > > > >> following method. > > > >>> Install an AC motor in the engine bay with a > > belt > > > >> going to the > > > >>> compressor. Put a double clutch on the > > vehicle > > > >> air conditioner > > > >>> compressor to handle the belt from the AC > > motor > > > >> and the engine. Use > > > >>> a transformer/invertor to change the 120 VAC > > to 12 > > > >> VDC to run the > > > >>> interior air conditioner duct fan and the fan > > up > > > >> front behind the > > > >>> radiator. This would be ideal, because there > > > >> would be no > > > >>> modifications to the vanagon body itself and > > no > > > >> appreciable space > > > >>> would be used. > > > >>> > > > >>> I haven't researched how much horsepower the > > air > > > >> conditioner > > > >>> compressor uses or if a double clutch unit is > > > >> available. My > > > >>> thinking is that these would be the two hang > > ups > > > >> for following > > > >>> through on this idea. > > > >>> > > > >>> Thoughts? > > > >>> -- > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> 86' Syncro GL (for sale) > > > >>> 84' Subaruvanagon Westy > > > >>> 01' KLR650 > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > >> GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > >> Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for > > > >> less! > > > >> Join Juno today! For your FREE software, > > visit: > > > >> http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! 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