>I wonder if a big steel tube bumber mounted above the
>vanagons bumper would save one's legs againts a giant
>SUV??(one like the projectzwo bull bars)-the
>projectzwo bumper mounts OVER the steel vanagon
>bumper, so that would double the strength No?

I would imagine that a Vanagon would win most tussles simply because the
newest vehicles are built to self destruct from the slightest impact. If
you have seen a newer car in a wreck, its amazing how it just falls apart.
Good news for the passengers, but bad news for the vehicle itself. SUVs
and even plain pickups will not stay together in a wreck, they are built
to come apart for a reason.

A vanagon would probably slice through any new automobiles, just as would
all older, larger vehicles.

But then I am no expert either.

John