"DIN" -> "D"eutsche "I"ndustrie "N"orm:
->german industry norm,

The opening for the radio is norm-sized in all german cars since the 70s, I
think.
So anything that has the outer dimensions will fit in all cars: Radios,
alternator regulators, navigation systems, air vents etc.

Raimund

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan Wilder" <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: Big Alternators - take 2

> Go for it!  We all need double problems. (Mile Miller I don't want to
> hear from you.)
> What the hey is an existing DIN?
> Stan Wilder
>
> On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 10:14:25 -0700 David Marshall
> <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG> writes:
> > The dual alternators that I have seen in Germany (have one set of
> > brackets
> > here and a complete setup sitting in Germany at this moment - both
> > from a
> > TD) have an external regulator.  It is really kind of neat too - in
> > stead of
> > a radio existing in the DIN opening in the dash there is a knob and
> > a set of
> > LEDs.  These LEDs show the voltage of the system and the knob is
> > used to
> > turn it up or down to compensate for the electrical load of the
> > system.  The
> > dual alternator set-ups that I have are from Syncro T3s that were
> > used by
> > the German Army for radio communications.  The alternators are 65A
> > each and
> > are just paralleled together.  I think the key is to have external
> > regulation to ensure that both are putting out the same voltage and
> > not
> > fighting against each other.  A F@rd external voltage regulator will
> > do the
> > trick - there is a web site out there with a person doing this mod
> > (single
> > alt) in a Volvo with a Bosch Alternator.
> >
> > David Marshall
> >
> > Fast Forward Automotive Inc.
> > 4356 Quesnel Hixon Road
> > Quesnel BC Canada  V2J 6Z3
> >
> > http://www.fastforward.ca    mailto:sales@fastforward.ca
> > Phone: (250) 992 7775        FAX: (250) 992 1160
> >
> > - Vanagon Accessories and Engine Conversions
> > - Vanagon, Transporter and Iltis Sales and Importation
> > - European Lighting for most Volkswagen models
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On
> > Behalf
> > Of Alistair Bell
> > Sent: April 13, 2002 7:34 AM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Big Alternators - take 2
> >
> >
> > slipped on the keyboard - sent partial message!
> >
> > What I meant to say in the garbled message was that the work done
> > will be
> > the same whether you use on or two alternators.
> >
> > Maybe David means that if your van's electrical system is drawing
> > close to
> > 110 amps then splitting the job between two (close to 55 amps each)
> > is less
> > "stressful" on each alternator.
> >
> > I can see an advantage to having 2 alternators (do they have to be
> > matched?
> > I don't think so) where one is dedicated to the house battery and
> > the other
> > to the starting battery. That way the charging/output
> > characteristics of
> > each alternator can be matched to the battery served.
> >
> >  Mind you, you can get a honking big (externally regulated too)
> > alternator
> > that would supply all the electrons a vanagon owner could possibly
> > need
> > (mmm, I sound a bit like B. Gates musing over the need for more than
> > 604kb
> > of RAM), and they look like they are not much bigger than a 90A
> > unit. Then
> > you won't have the problem of mounting 2 alternators (maybe easy,
> > maybe
> > not).
> >
> >
> > Alistair
> >
> >
> > --
> > '82 Westy -> diesel converted to gas in '94
> > albell@uvic.ca
> > http://homepage.mac.com/alistairbell/home/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > on 13/04/2002 7:07 AM, Alistair Bell at albell@uvic.ca wrote:
> >
> > > have to be picky on this...work involved is same wheher one or
> > two
> > > alternators (110V*14V
> > >
> > >
> > > on 12/04/2002 9:34 PM, David Marshall at vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> The ultimate is to use two alternators - there are factory
> > brackets for
> > this
> > >> and it is healthier for each alternator as they will be producing
> > less
> > >> current and not working as hard to achieve 110A
> > >>
> > >> David Marshall
> > >
> >
>
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