>All of us have to decide what is safe and what is acceptable risk. The
>attitude of some is that we should all just stay at home, surrounded by
>pillows, others think nothing short of airbags and 5 point seat belts is
>acceptable, some here drive without seat belts, while many of us accept
>the risk, use whatever devices are available for safety, drive carefully,
>and enjoy our vehicles regardless.

You don't have to believe in pillows and springs and socialism to
know that the Vanagon is not very safe in a frontal collision.

It's all about mass. The Vanagon has precious little where it counts.

That doesn't mean I don't choose to own one. I just know my chances
if the unspeakable happens.

Dave
--
Dave Carpenter

Whatever you wish for me,
May you have twice as much.

"Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think
we're not. In either case the idea is quite staggering." -- Arthur C.
Clarke