If the temp is running at around 100C then it makes no difference if you
have an 80 or 87C t-stat.  Most I4s that I have seen run at or slightly
above the LED - not a problem.

David Marshall

Fast Forward Automotive Inc.
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Quesnel BC Canada  V2J 6Z3

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-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
Of phil stanhope
Sent: April 14, 2002 6:33 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: New Tiico engine Overheating-Problem solved!

Mine does that also.
Some how i dont think the stock vanagon gauge is
calibrated to the tiico but im no expert. Id like to
bypass and get a digital qauge. I am definatly
changing my thermostat from an 87C to an 80C becouse
im in Florida.  Maybe an oversized radiator would be
the key or bigger fan blade/motor.

Weell i Gotta make it to Blockbuster and return "Fear
and Loathing in Las Vegas"

--- Ki Hong <rean1m8r@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> curious... while we are on the topic of overheating
> tiico engines,  how hot are peoples tiico engines
> running?   mine runs fine on the highway(just over
> the
> mniddle white line) but 30 minutes of city driving
> raises it up to the 3/4 mark on the gauge.  seems a
> litte hot to me but was told by my mechanic that
> this
> is normal.
>
>
> --- phil stanhope <napszeerf@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > After taking alot of green coolant showers I have
> > finally fixed my overheating problem. It turns out
> > the
> > problem was exactly what all of you told me it
> was,
> > it
> > was a big air bubble blocking was i think is the
> > upper
> > feed line to the radiator.  Thanks for all the
> help.
> > Thanks to Peter for fast delivery of my water
> pump.
> > He
> > keeps parts like these on the shelf so we dont
> have
> > to
> > wait for delivery from SA.
> >
> > If you are interested i wrote out what happened
> > below.
> >
> > When i dicovered my Tiico was getting too hot i
> got
> > it
> > home and started to trouble shoot.
> > I bled the coolant system by jacking up the front
> > end
> > 15" and bleeding the rad. bleeder while reving
> past
> > 2000RPMs. I repeated this 2 times. Then I checked
> > thermostat bt boiling it in water, it was fine.
> Then
> > i
> > had Peter Fed-express me a new water pump and
> > installed it. Even after all this the engine was
> > still
> > running too hot. So I jacked front end up TWO MORE
> > times and then finally my westy goes.....BURP! and
> > coolant started really flowing out of rad.
> bleeder.
> > I
> > go for a drive and the guage is still at "hot"
> THEN
> > all of the sudden the needle DROPS! now the needle
> > rides half way(normal) and my radiator works fine.
> I
> > pointed my heat gun at the engine head and it read
> > 180F degrees so my guess this is normal safe
> > opperating temp.
> >
> > Thanks for all the help.
> >
> > Phil ***84' Westy Tiico "Millenium Falcon"
> > ***84' Westfalia Wolfsburg edition GL--Rolling
> > chassis(has NO engine)-FOR SALE/SE VENDE!!-Florida
> > Title/2nd owner. AC, PS, 4spd. Deluxe Instrument
> > panel(tach/digi-clock) Super clean
> > interior/cabinets,
> > all in good condition. captains chairs,  removable
> > bench seat for 6 passenger capability. 2
> > tables/arms.
> > Nice Curtains Body has rusty seams but none on top
> > of
> > front bumper. Nice Pop Top/Canvas. Sony Stereo.
> > Could
> > be perfect for a conversion project-Tiico? Subaru?
> > ***60' Morris Mini1340CC(Also for sale)
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > > Dave Marshall seems to think it might be an air
> > > bubble in the line.  Did you
> > > follow proper bleed procedures?  if you get a
> big
> > > enough bubble in a high
> > > spot it could stop the flow, I suppose.
> > >
> > > Let it get warm and open the bleed screw up in
> the
> > > radiator and see if you
> > > get bubbles or fluid.
> > >
> > > Karl
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "phil stanhope" <napszeerf@yahoo.com>
> > > To: "Karl Wolz" <wolzphoto@worldnet.att.net>
> > > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:34 PM
> > > Subject: Re: New Tiico engine Overheating HELP!
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks but I didnt think of that(heater) I DID
> > > take
> > > > the top off and I aimed this high power
> truckers
> > > fan
> > > > at it
> > > > while driving home. This fan will blow itself
> > over
> > > if
> > > > not fastened down...REALLY POWERFUL...kinda
> > neat.
> > > > I hope its not the water pump. I wonder where
> > the
> > > > T'stat is? Hummm..it be nice to have a manual!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your help
> > > > Phil
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@worldnet.att.net>
> > wrote:
> > > > > Correct.  If you're driving down the road,
> > > you've
> > > > > got airflow through the
> > > > > rad.  Sounds like the t'stat is closed or
> the
> > > pump
> > > > > ain't pumping.  When the
> > > > > engine was hot, did the heater blow hot air?
> > > > >
> > > > > You know that in an emergency you can shed
> > > engine
> > > > > heat by using the heaters,
> > > > > assuming you have coolant flow.  The heaters
> > are
> > > on
> > > > > a circuit which bypasses
> > > > > the t'stat, BTW (pretty sure a Tiico works
> > that
> > > > > way).
> > > > >
> > > > > Karl Wolz
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "phil stanhope" <napszeerf@YAHOO.COM>
> > > > > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:16 PM
> > > > > Subject: New Tiico engine Overheating HELP!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dall-garnit here I go AGAIN at the list!
> > > > > > FRIDAY night cut short by an Overheating
> > Tiico
> > > I-4
> > > > > > 200 miles on my new Tiico I4 and Ive got
> > > problems
> > > > > > already...just my luck.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Every since I got it the little white
> needle
> > > on
> > > > > the
> > > > > > temperature guage rides at 12 o'clock JUST
> > > over
> > > > > the
> > > > > > idiot light. Tonight it decides to go
> almost
> > > all
> > > > > the
> > > > > > way up to HOT. Outdoor temp is 65F
> degrees.
> > So
> > > I
> > > > > > parked and went down to feel the radiator
> > and
> > > it
> > > > > felt
> > > > > > cold. I felt the upper radiator feed hose
> > its
> > > > > > luke-warm.
> > > > > > Luckily im close to home when this
> happens.
> > I
> > > cant
> > > > > > hear the radiator fan(not that i ever
> could
> > > hear
> > > > > it)
> > > > > > so I assume its not working, but if im
> > driving
> > > > > without
> > > > > > stopping much then the fan doesnt matter
> as
> > > > > much..no?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
>
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