>You don't have to believe in pillows and springs and socialism to know
>that the Vanagon is not very safe in a frontal collision.

The only thing that would be of value is hard data, and I haven't seen any
yet. Anything other than that is pure conjecture. There are many vehicles
that a Vanagon would run right over the top of, so there is no way the
above statement has any merit.

It certainly looks to be unsafe, but then so does a vanagong going around
a corner, but in truth, its pretty stable. SUVs look safe, but we have
learned that they are not. Looks can be, and usually are, deceiving.

>It's all about mass. The Vanagon has precious little where it counts.

Its all about guessing what will happen, but not really knowing.

John