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>There will never be any new hard data on a long-discontinued model such
>as the Vanagon. So conjecture and model physics will have to do.

>You can conjecture what a 2-ton front-engine SUV will do when it meets a
>2-ton Vanagon. One has a 1/2-ton engine in front of the passengers. The
>other has scarce sheet metal. It doesn't take an Einstein to figure out
>the *probable* outcome.

Yep, the SUV guy is gonna be wearing a 1/2 ton engine in his lap.

John