>Not much in a Vanagon that can "break free". There is only the mass of
>the front sheet metal to protect you.

>Dave (still likes Vanagons, just knows who's going to win in contest) --
>Dave Carpenter

This thread has splintered into two different scenarios, and I guess its
time to shout "uncle" from here.

What denotes a win? Surviving, or one vehicle destroying the other? There
are two things being talked about here as if they were one, so not
everyone is singing the same tune.

If we are concerned about dying in a vanagon from a head on collision, I
quit, because most head on collisions at freeway speeds will kill just
about everyone in the front seats of all but the Excursions. If an SUV is
considered so safe, we can escalate to an SUV vs an 18 Wheeler and decide
that the SUV is not safe to drive either.

Me, I have been referring to which vehicle will fall to pcs, and which one
will mangle the SUV. I think most others are talking death, which is
pointless.

Probably time to end it. Dave just keeps saying he knows, so that must be
it :-)

John