

| Subject: | Re: Vanagon crash safety/Projectzwo bull bars |
| From: | Andrew Grebneff |
| Date: | Tue, 9 Apr 2002 21:07:09 +1200 |
It's not about MASS. It's about RIGIDITY vs controlled crumpling rates. An iron anvil doesn't crumple easily, so gives ZERO protection in a head-on. The body of a car (passenger variety; of course vans, SUVs etc are cars, car being a contraction of carriage) is designed to ABSORB collision speed by progressively crumpling in a controlled way, bringing the vehicle to a more "gentle" (relative term, that!) halt. Of course head-on accidents usually occur at a higher combined speed than the crush zones of any vehicle can hope to cope with, so if you have a decent head-on you're almostr certainly dead, no matter what you drive, including Incursions. The VW T3 has no engine and only a short body length in front of the driver, so it must trade crushability for rigidity. The chassis and body metal is designed to maximize rigidity and bending resistance, with a small crush built-in. These vehicles have proven themselves well in frontal (and rear-end) accidents; they are extremely strong, and use the other vehicle as a crush zone. However, as with a tank like a LandCruiser, a vehicle lacking crushzones will transfer the full brunt of impact to its occupants, hence the danger. The vehicle itself may survive... but the passengers may be nowhere near as well-off. Say, strained through their seatbelts while having their skulls shattered against the dash (despite being belted in). >*Any* front-engine vehicle has *much* more protection -- not >necessarily intentionally engineered -- than a Vanagon does. > >Look at how much mass is between your knee caps and the other vehicle >(bridge abutment, etc.). Any other vehicle has an entire engine and >probably transmission, which is anchored to the chassis, and 4 feet >of double-fender and hood mass, etc. > >It's all about mass. Yes, the Vanagon has huge mass, but most of it's >behind you. I'm sure that in a head-on collision our Vanagons' rear >bumper would come out better than any other vehicle's, but I'm not so
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