He isin fact talking about something *other* than the Vision Plus lights,
Joel.  The Vision Plus lights are basically a DOT-certified lens with a
replaceable bulb element.  They do not have the same lens as the E-Code
lamps. He is talking about E-code lamp housings, which are technically not
"legal" here in the States (this is why Hella makes the Vision Plus lamps -
as a DOT-legal "upgrde" from sealed beams)

I think what I have heard is that the "Vision Plus" lamps are a step above
the stock sealed beams, but that the E-code lamps are another cut above
those.

Haven't tried any of them myself, other than renting cars in other countries
and always noticing how much better their headlights work...

Brent Christensen
'89 GL Syncro Westy
Santa Barbara, CA

>From: "Joel Walker" <jwalker17@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: "Joel Walker" <jwalker17@earthlink.net>
>To: "Brent Christensen" <sbsyncro@hotmail.com>, <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>Subject: Re:      Some good info about E-code headlamps & "City Lights"
>Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 21:54:42 -0500
>
> > Beam patterns are better (wider, longer-reaching) on low and high
>beam with
> > Cibies. The main difference, though, is that 7" round and 200mm
>rectangular
> > Hellas have an irritating beam separation problem.  Set the low
>beams where
> > they belong, and the high beams are up in the trees without enough
>on-road
> > light.  Pull the high beams down where they can be useful, and the
>low beams
> > are down on the bumper.
>
>i strongly DISagree. my Hella 7" round Vision Plus halogen lights
>don't have any problems with beam patterns ... and having run the
>Cibie lights for over 20 years, i kinda like the Hellas better. for
>one thing, they are cheaper. and they are still available. i looked
>for Cibie but didn't find anyone that sold them.
>
>both have a very distinct cut-off on the vertical, and a wider
>horizontal pattern on low beam.
>
>but either this guy is talking about some Hella lights OTHER than the
>Vision Plus, or he doesn't know what he's talking about ... in my
>humble opinion and based on my experience with both brands of lights.
>
>joel
>

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