Willy,

Not questioning you, but am asking a question.

How do your rights in Canada compare with your rights in the US?

Any Canadians on the list care to respond, eh?

Karl Wolz

----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell, William" <william.russell@UW-INC.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: vanagon Digest - 15 May 2002 - Special issue (#2002-594)

> Joe,
>
> The difference with me is that I consider that an infringement of my
> rights and would decline the search based on that.  I don't need a
> couple of cops picking through my belongings and my girlfriends
> underwear.  There is no justification for it.  IT'S WRONG.
>
> \/\/i!!y
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf
> Of joseph Trussell
> Sent: May 15, 2002 15:58
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: vanagon Digest - 15 May 2002 - Special issue (#2002-594)
>
> Paranoia??
>
> I was going cross country a couple of years ago in my last '85 GL, and
> stopped in Dumas, TX to get gas and try to figure out why my clutch
> wasn't
> engaging all the way...The sherriff and two deputies showed up at the
> gas
> station where I was parked, probably noticed the "Widespread Panic"
> sticker
> on the back, and asked politely what I was doing and if they could
> search my
> vehicle.
> I obliged, and while they were searching I was busy finding the leak in
> my
> clutch slave cylinder (they were very accomodating as far as me going
> about
> my business while they looked,) they did a quick run-through from front
> to
> back, top to bottom, and told me I was free to go...
>
> Five days later, I was sitting in a beach parking lot in Pensacola
> Beach, FL
> eating a sandwich, and two bicycle cops rode up and asked if they could
> take
> a look; one of them asked me if I was smoking pot (I wasn't.)  They
> looked
> through the whole van, all my stuff, engine bay, etc. and didn't find
> anything either.  When they were finished, I asked them one question:
>
> "Guys, if I was going to run drugs across the deep south, do you think
> I'd
> do it in a VW Vanagon with Colorado plates?"
>
> They both got a kick out of that, and one replied "no, I reckon not.
> Hell
> this would be about the most obvious thing, now that I think about
> it..."
>
> It ain't paranoia.
>
> Joe T.
> Denver, CO
> '85 GL 'bertha'
> '66 Westy
>
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Greg Kessler <kessler@OHIO.EDU>
> Reply-To: Greg Kessler <kessler@OHIO.EDU>
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: vanagon Digest - 15 May 2002 - Special issue (#2002-594)
> Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 15:44:56 -0400
>
> If this is paranoia then it must be contagious...lots of folks on the
> list have concurred, some even attempting to justify this action based
> on the number of VW vans that are actually used to transport weed.
>
> ...and paranoia doesn't help explain why I sat in customs (and stood
> watching the dismantling of my clean and legal van) for over two hours
> while none of the other vehicles crossing (at a steady rate) were even
> stopped.
>
> Greg Kessler
> 86 Westy
> 73 Thing
> 99 Subaru Forester
>
> Kessler@ohio.edu
> http://gregling.net
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, at 03:05 PM, Automatic digest processor
> wrote:
>
> >>>I can only assume from my experience and the others on this list that
> >the Canadian Government is targeting VW vans.<<
> >
> >What the hell are you talking about...........................
> >
> >Damn, this is pure paranoia
> >
> >Ben
>
>
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