

| Subject: | Re: Living in a van |
| From: | Stan Wilder |
| Date: | Sun, 26 May 2002 08:52:27 -0500 |
Many Chicago beaches will be closed from time to time again this year. The main reason is a rise in bacteria that comes from 3 sources: Sewage back-up during rains. Dog-poop on beach near the water -------------------- You big bunch of babies .......... the West Coast folks swim in that brown water all the time. Stan On Sat, 25 May 2002 00:10:05 -0500 Chris Smith <chris.smith@AQUILA.NET> writes: > Many Chicago beaches will be closed from time to time again this > year. The > main reason is a rise in bacteria that comes from 3 sources: > > Sewage back-up during rains. > > Dog-poop on beach near the water > > Food left on beach near the water. > > This is tried and true. The same thing happens in the wild as well, > only > there is often no one testing every day to see if the water is > clean. If > your going to wash, please do not let the wash water run into any > body of > water. Soap kills many things needed for a healthy eco-system. > this is > true for any soap. If for some reason you can't ensure that your > wash > water will not flow into a body of water an old boy-scout trick is > to take > a large plastic bag, fill it with leaves, punch holes in the bottom > and > filter the wash water through it. Then when your done, burn the > leaves in > your camp-fire and pack-out the bag. It's not a perfect solution, > but it > has cleaned many streams on larger scout ranches. > > At 09:49 AM 5/24/02, DaveC wrote: > >>Hey everybody, > >> > >> Lots of great ideas for camping, but please remember: > NEVER WASH OR > >>BATHE IN A STREAM OR LAKE. Not even with biodegradable soap. > All > >>'biodegradable' means is that it will break down in soil in a > relatively > >>short time. Any soap that you put in water can kill the living > things in the > >>water. You know, like pouring soap down your lungs. You should > use > >>biodegradable soap, it is better for the environment and you can > dump it in > >>the woods, just not near the water. > >> > >> Think about it -- if the soap was really that > biodegradable, it would > >>degrade as soon as it hit your wash water, so it wouldn't clean > your clothes. > >> It does stay active in the water and screws up lots of > ecological > >> functions. > >> Have pity on some wildlife and dump in the woods, not the lake. > > > >I see people washing their dishes right in the stream/river all > the > >time. I, exasperatedly, explain to each, how the ideas is to take > >water *out* of the river and wash them a ways inland. The waste > water > >filters through the soil back to the water table. If you put your > >food waste (and worse!) directly into the water, folks downstream > are > >sure to get diarrhea. > > > >Dave > >-- > >Dave Carpenter > > > >Whatever you wish for me, > >May you have twice as much. > > > >"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from > >magic." -- Arthur C. Clarke > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.
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