

| Subject: | Re: Best van ever designed (was: Why do we love that damn van so much...) |
| From: | Phil S. |
| Date: | Sun, 26 May 2002 07:26:34 -0700 |
"> The best... has to be the cabover current-model > (1989-present) Toyota > Hiace." Sounds like a great vehicle, But round here a "cabover" is called a "Class C" and is not considered a Van. If we are going to compare apples and oranges Ill take a 79' GMC 26' Motorcoach, front wheel drive 455cid Olds and a top speed of 80mph AND...great handling. check out the GMC history page: http://www.gmcmotorhomes.com/catalog/page00.html Most of these motorhomes are still on the road becouse they were designed to be tough as nails by an air craft engineer that worked for GMC. Phil --- Andrew Grebneff <andrew.grebneff@STONEBOW.OTAGO.AC.NZ> wrote: > >ITS THE BEST VAN EVER DESIGNED.....EVER > > No way. Not looked at objectively. The body is > great, the suspension > is great (and therefore the handling). But it is > seriously let down > by unreliable mechanicals, poor electrics and > crap-quality plastics > and switchgear; unergonomic controls. The cargo bay > is compromised by > the engine hump; this could probably have been > deleted by having no > ancillaries atop the engine and a slightly higher > floor. > > The best... has to be the cabover current-model > (1989-present) Toyota > Hiace. Solid, safe, reliable, big, ergonomic > everything, decent > handling, available with a huge variety of engines, > body types, 3 > different van wheelbases and levels of trim from > bare bones to > ultraluxurious. And a flat cargo bay floor. All it > lacks is an IRS > option, though upmarket versions get torsionbar > rear, and > walkthrough. 4WD optional, including full-time and > part-time > versions. And with good looks to top it off, and > Toyota's top-quality > ergonomics, plastics, switchgear, fit and finish. > Available with > full camper conversions, including poptops. > > Toyota Hiace > Engines > 2.0 gas > 2.4 gas > 2.0 diesel > 2.4 diesel (turbo oprtion) > 2.8 diesel > 3.0 EFI turbodiesel > Auto or 5-speed manual; floorshift or column > cartspring or torsionbar rear > SWB, MWB (=VW length) or LWB > RWD, part-time 4WD, full-time 4WD > normal or high roof > top-hinged normal tailgate or (rare) dual > vertical-hinged doors > single or dual sliders > optional small rear wheels with no wheelarches > intruding into floor > electric locking, windows, morrors, dual aircon etc > > -- > Andrew Grebneff > 165 Evans St, Dunedin 9001, New Zealand > <andrew.grebneff@stonebow.otago.ac.nz> > Seashell, Macintosh, VW/Toyota van nut __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
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