My thoughts too. I have endured a little more than rudeness and for the 1st
time on this list I started to use junk mail filters for certain addresses.
Just don't care to hear from folks who are rude. I feel now that I have also
attempted enough repairs that my knowledge could be valuable to someone, and
I might be able to return it to someone who needs it. I refuse to give up
and leave though, to much good advice, great ideas, fun bantering (sp?), and
entertainment value also.

However, as always "to each his/her own"

Sean Garrett
1981 Westy (his)
1995 Eurovan Camper (hers)
sean.garrett@asu.edu

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Beierl [mailto:dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:20 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: IS THE LIST GETTING SMALLER?
>
>
> At 01:07 PM 5/28/2002, developtrust wrote:
> >What a bogus posting. I say good riddance to anyone who
> would try to squelch
> >any kind of participation. Tom does a great job in my opinion.
> >
> >What an immature thing to attempt to blame the list member's
> content for a
> >reason for leaving. Another attempt at censorship.

> William, what you seem to be missing is that the people who
> leave are the
> ones with expertise and experience, who have given many hours
> of effort to
> assist others.  It is hardly censorship to remove oneself from an
> environment that has become unpleasant, and many people find blatant
> rudeness, hair-trigger squabbling, and endless pushing of
> politicosexualsociological philosophies quite unpleasant.  I
> count myself
> among them.  There is another group who may leave -- that is
> new members
> who have entered in the midst of a bout of incivility and
> have not had a
> chance yet to discover the value of the list.
>
> I beg to differ.  People have, I suppose, every right to be
> rude, although
> it certainly says a lot about them personally -- OTOH other
> people have an
> equal right to expect an atmosphere of  civility and to vote
> with their
> feet when it is missing.  If the people who leave are ?coincidentally?
> those who have the greatest experience and expertise, then I
> submit that
> the list is the poorer for it.
> regds,
> david
>
>
> --
> David Beierl - Providence, RI
>   http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/
> '84 Westy "Dutiful Passage"
> '85 GL "Poor Relation"
>