

| Subject: | Re: 3.3L MOTOR FOR VANAGON.....I JUST GOT THE SVX |
| From: | mike ingle |
| Date: | Sat, 15 Jun 2002 22:14:14 -0700 |
All said, I wonder, why such power for a Vanagon? The only reason I can imagine is towing otherwise, all I want is a more reliable, more fuel efficient engine (VW TDI for me when the wter boxer goes). Less power, no transaxle woes.. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Grebneff" <andrew.grebneff@STONEBOW.OTAGO.AC.NZ> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 9:43 PM Subject: Re: 3.3L MOTOR FOR VANAGON.....I JUST GOT THE SVX > >my question is...what kind of tranny do you throw into 240 hp > >vanagon?!?!? i really can't believet the stock tranny would handle > >that kind of HP...?? > >Jeff > >87 syncro gl > > Dead right! I don't believe a beefed VW trans will either, not for > long, anyway. Which is why I've got a 1989 Getrag G50/50 M220 5-speed > Porsche 911 Turbo LSD trans, virtually unbreakable, and these don't > appear to wear at all. This particular one has synchro into reverse > too! > > Kits are "available" to fit these, from Marty Schneider's MSDS > <www.msdsinc.com>, e-mail <MDM810@aol.com> in LA and Claer in > Germany. However Claer is a jerk according to the Germans, is not on > e-mail, told me via an intermediary to fax him, then proceded to > ignore all my faxes!!! MSDS normally sells the trans kit ONLY as part > of his Range Panzer 911 engine/G50 kit, and doesn't want to sell a > trans-only kit. BUT he did tell me: > " Please hold on to the prices I quoted you, as I usually do not > sell these out of the conversion kit. Regards, Martin msdsinc." > Then, every time I asked him to sell me one, it was "I have to look > after my full-kit clients first and don't have enough stock to sell > to you now; try again in a few months". Sounds like a pushoff to me... > > G50s are the rage in German conversions, but most, due to Claer's > nastiness, are one-off fitments. > > An alternative is the older Porsche 915 trans; the later alloy-cased > ones are pretty strong, but do tend to wear synchros and bearings. > However a recon one would be fine, but nobody makes a kit for these. > > AVOID the earlier 915 or the 901 (fitted to the Porsche 914 and older > 911s), which is not strong enough. > > Whatever Porsche trans you use, you would need the complete gearshift > mechanism from a car fitted with the very gearbox yours came from. > The shifter has to be fitted into the cockpit floor in place of the > VW unit. The Porsche trans shift rod is an axial design like all > nonVanagon rear-engined VWs, not a sideshift like Vanagons. > > You cannot use an FWD/4WD Subaru (weak, anyway) or Audi trans, as in > these the differential cannot be reversed. The 915 from a midengined > 914 can be used, as the diff IS reversible; the G50 isn't, but it's a > rear-engine-only trans anyway, so doesn't need it. > > You would need adaptor axles. The 915 trans uses the same 100mm > CV-joint PCD as a Bay van, and I doubt the Vanagon is any different, > so you SHOULD be able to bolt the VW CVs to the 915, or use 915 CVs > on the van. > > The G50 fits much stronger 930 CVs, with a larger 118mm (or was it > 108?) PCD. These allow greater range of axle movement, so positioning > of the trans drive relative to the stubaxles is not so critical as it > is with the smaller CVs. You can fit adaptor drive flanges to the G50 > to fit the smaller VW/915 CVs, or use 930 CVs and fit adaptor > stubaxles to the van, as I will do. CV adaptors, axles etc available > from Weddle Engineering <www.weddle.com>. > > You can spend heaps on a VW trans, using Albins gears, aftermarket > diff sidecovers, wear-quick stainless Super Diff etc and still have a > trans which will go bang... and THEN have to do the Porsche trick. > Far cheaper to bypass this first stage and go porsche straight off. > There's a reason all the Germans fitting VW V6s, Cosworths etc aren't > using VW transmissions! > > My SVX engine will develop rather more than stock power, with an > decent extractor and tunable aftermarket management system. A > belt-driven Sprintex supercharger is under consideration, but I have > to somehow find the money to fit the engine/trans and Porsche 993 > brakes first! > -- > Andrew Grebneff > 165 Evans St, Dunedin 9001, New Zealand > <andrew.grebneff@stonebow.otago.ac.nz> > Seashell, Macintosh, VW/Toyota van nut >
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