> I am relying on yur statement that the springs you sell are the
> same as the Carats.

Just to clarify, they put the van's ride height at about the same as a
Carat, but they are not the same springs. Although it's been a while since I
drove a Carat,  I'm pretty sure that the stock Carat springs are a bit
softer.

> "...They also firm up the ride
> and handling just slightly, but not bone-jarringly. "
> I believe you are describing the H & R's, right?

No, actually I didn't mean this as a comparison to the H&R's.  I just meant
that on my van the Boges feel a bit stiffer than stock but not objectionably
so.   But in re-reading it, I do see how it could have been misconstrued.

In a nutshell, these Boges could be called a mild performance spring.  Just
a bit - not drastically-  stiffer and lower than stock.  That's all I was
trying to get at.   My goal in sourcing these was to offer an affordable
alternative to the $1200 dealer price, for people whose vans had saggy
springs like mine did.  I mostly sell stock replacement parts, so I was
looking fo a good OEM replacement, not a product that made any dramatic
changes to the way the van looked, felt, or handled.  In fact,  I chose the
Boges because they were closer to stock than the other alternatives I found.
While their mild performance improvement is nice (and I must admit I do like
the slightly squatter "Carat" look), the biggest benefit is probably derived
simply from the fact that they are brand new and not 100k miles old.

- Ron Salmon
  The Bus Depot, Inc.
  (215) 234-VWVW
  www.busdepot.com

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