Dang.

30 and 87 are live [power] and load.  So now I have to look for what's
turning either 85 or 86 on besides the ignition switch?

Mike

> From: David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net>
> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2002 00:20:41 -0400
> To: mike <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: X relay
>
> At 11:40 PM 7/6/2002, mike wrote:
>> Well, half the mystery is solved.  The relay that is over warm is the x
>> relay.   It's not on the fuse block because its position is melted/wrecked
>> so it hangs free.
>>
>> Put the new relay in.  wipers/heater blower still works with the key off but
>> the turn signals don't [didn't with the old relay either]  Maybe that's the
>> way it supposed to be?
>
> Nope, something is activating the X-relay when it shouldn't be.  Unplug it
> and you should find that your blower, wipers, rear defrost don't work.
>
> The 30 and 87 leads should be always-live and load, respectively.  The 85
> and 86 should be X-contact of the ign switch, and ground.  It doesn't
> really matter if either pair are switched around.
>
> I think you're going to find that either 85 or 86 is always live, as well
> as 30 or 87...the relay coil doesn't draw vast amounts of juice, could
> probably sit quite a while with it activated.
>
> david
>
>
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