> >This has to be a scam.  Yeah, you can electrolyse water to get hydrogen
> >and oxygen, and you can run an engine on that, no problem.
Well, it is a problem because hydrogen is bl*** dangerous stuff
 >> The problem is you have to put in at least as much energy to do the
electrolysis as you
> >get back when you burn it -
not from what I've heard - aren't major mfrs having a good go at this?

Clive Smith
'88 Syncro Transporter

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Beierl" <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: Running on Tap Water (was Re: Attention California Vanagonites)

> At 04:05 PM 7/11/2002, David Brodbeck wrote:
> >This has to be a scam.  Yeah, you can electrolyse water to get hydrogen
> >and oxygen, and you can run an engine on that, no problem.  The problem
is
> >you have to put in at least as much energy to do the electrolysis as you
> >get back when you burn it, because when you burn it, the end product
> >is...WATER.
>
> Three laws of thermodynamics, restated so I can understand them:
> 1) You can't win.
> 2) You can't break even on any hand/throw/whatever.
> 3) You can't leave the game.
>
> Maybe we should get branding irons made up (cf Stephenson's _Snow Crash_)?
>
> david
>
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