

| Subject: | Re: Locking differential |
| From: | Clive Smith |
| Date: | Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:40:54 +0100 |
I wouldn't, I'd always have the locker in the rear on the rear engined Transporter, especially as the steering gets almost impossible with a front locker. From what I hear, the rear locker gets you out of most situations... without losing steering Clive Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay L Snyder" <Jay.L.Snyder@USA.DUPONT.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 5:57 PM Subject: Re: Locking differential > This sounds correct. I know the Suzuki Samurai guys said the same thing. > They also recommended if you can only afford one Locker, put it in the > front diff! Great for off-road and with manual hubs, not a problem on dry > highway use. Seeing as I use the Samurai's 4WD less than 100 miles a year, > I don't think it would be a good investment at this time. > > Jay '85 Westy and '87 > Samurai > > > > > Todd Last <Rubatoguy@MINDSPRING.COM>@gerry.vanagon.com> on 07/17/2002 > 12:42:39 PM > > Please respond to Todd Last <Rubatoguy@MINDSPRING.COM> > > Sent by: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > cc: > Subject: Re: Locking differential > > > From what I have heard, the lockright type of diferentials are not > really suitable for street use. > I know there was at least one listmember who went this route and ended > up removing the diff. > The reason? > > Here is a good explaination posted on a 4x4 website: > > > When driving in a straight line the locker is normally locked. On dry > > pavement, when cornering, the outer wheel over-running the speed of > > the axle unlocks the outside axle shaft. Power is applied to the > > inside wheel only. This can cause a noticeable under-steer. > > Additionally, if enough power is applied while in the turn, the axle > > will lock up and the vehicle either slips wildly, spins or straightens > > out suddenly. These differentials sometimes make a clicking noise when > > cornering; some find this objectionable. > > > Todd > '88 Westy > > > Fitz-Randolph, Douglas wrote: > > >Hi all. I have a few comments about this. > > > >First, about the benefits of a locking rear diff on a 2WD Vanagon... > During > >one winter I had the driveshaft out of my syncro, effectively making it a > >2WD Vanagon. The locking rear differential made a huge difference, both in > >overall ability to keep going straight while driving slowly on > snow-covered > >roads, and in not getting stuck trying to make it up the un-shoveled > >driveway after a daytime snowfall. The difference was like night and day. > >I'd have to say that from my personal on-road snow experience, having a > >locking diff on a 2WD van would be a nice addition. Mud / off-road? Maybe > a > >different story, but having the ability to have power at 2 wheels would > >logically seem to be better than having it at just one. In fact, check the > >link in the next section - they've got a neat illustration of how having > 2WD > >and a locking diff can be superior in certain situations to having 4WD and > >no locking diff. > > > >Second, about the Lockright diff locker offered by Desert Rat... this is > >different than the stock syncro diff lock - it is not manually engaged and > >disengaged. It's similar to "posi-traction" (though they say it is far > >superior to that), meaning if one wheel slips, the diff will lock to > provide > >power to both wheels. I've never owned a vehicle with Lockright or > >posi-traction, so I can't comment on its effectiveness in any situation. I > >also cannot offer any information on what effect it would have on tire > wear, > >etc. To see what Lockright says about it - which I think is quite > >interesting, go to http://www.lockright.com/ . I will add this, though... > it > >might be a solution to the problem of what to do about locking diffs on an > >I4 diesel conversion where, correct me if I am wrong, the starter - or > >something - interferes with the operation of the stock rear diff lock. > Just > >a thought. > > > >Cheers, > >Doug Fitz-Randolph > >Freeport, ME > > > > > >Original Message > >------------------------------------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:21:55 -0700 > >From: Michael Ramer <elvisramer@COX.NET> > >Subject: Re: Locking differential > > > >As for the 2WD vans and locking differentials, I believe it was decided > that > >due to the Vanagons' near 50/50 weight distribution, that a rear locker > >would not really be very benefiical. I tend to agree, but my particular > >offroad experiences in a 2WD Westy is all I have to draw on though. Anyone > >have one installed on [any] 2WD Vanagon? > >Now if a diff locker were available for my '72 Bus, I might be > ineterested, > >as I believe it to be better setup for such beatings. I am talking dirt > vs. > >snow though. Hmmm. > >Mike > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Ben McCafferty" <ben@KBMC.NET> > >To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > >Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:07 PM > >Subject: Re: Locking differential > > > > > > > > > >>It was an option on syncros, and German Transaxles in Bend, OR, will also > >>install a front diff lock on the syncro for about $500. I believe some > >> > >> > >have > > > > > >>put a syncro tranny with locker into a 2WD vanagon with good results. > >>bmc :) > >>"Faith will move mountains, but you'd better bring a shovel...." > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>From: "Nemo, the Bus Captain" <nemobuscaptain@YAHOO.COM> > >>>Reply-To: "Nemo, the Bus Captain" <nemobuscaptain@YAHOO.COM> > >>>Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:57:46 -0700 > >>>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >>>Subject: Locking differential > >>> > >>>I remember Lilly saying he had this on his > >>>vanagon, but I've never seen them advertised > >>>before. Just the trick for you beach or snow > >>>guys? (Or not?) > >>> > >>>http://www.desertrat.com/lockright/lockright.htm > >>> > >>>===== > >>>Peace and blessings, > >>>Nemo, the Bus Captain > >>> > >>>74 Westy For Sale: http://www.geocities.com/nemobuscaptain/index.html > >>> > >>>__________________________________________________ > >>>Do You Yahoo!? > >>>Yahoo! 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