

| Subject: | Re: diesel conversion |
| From: | Harmon Seaver |
| Date: | Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:12:39 -0500 |
What federal inspections? I've done numerous engine swaps over the years, never lived in a state that required inspections, and never heard of any fed inspections. On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 04:37:38PM -0600, Gary Shea wrote: > [2002-07-29 12:41 -0700] James B Robinson (jr@RATWERKS.COM) wrote: > > Volks, > > > > I've gotten some great feedback on my GreaseVan project. A thing several > > of my fellow Californian's have mentioned is the potential grief from the > > DMV over emissions tests. > > > > My rough plan is to get a late model gas powered bus and get some time on > > the smog clock (these are good for at least a year?) Do the diesel > > conversion and follow that pretty quickly with the vegetable oil add-on. > > Then, next time smog check is due have it tested running on SVO while > > explaining none of its exotic nature to the guy at the check station (on > > the theory that often, the less said, the better.) > > > > I'm not really from CA, so maybe I am just way naive on these things; I > > moved here from Texas where stuff may be a bit looser. Is this likely to > > work, or just completely blow up in my face? I'm not particulary averse > > to pursuing proper channels if need be, but neither am I averse to coloring > > 'outside the lines' as it were. > > > Reasons for starting with gas include getting a bus with fewer years and > > newer features as well as getting the interior laid out just the way I want > > it from the factory. This would also let me spread the cost of the project > > over time, something that'll make it sit a lot better with my wife. > > > > Project notes at: > > > > http://ratwerks.com/zope/wiki/GreaseVan > > > > -- > > [ Jim Robinson -- System Administrator -- ratwerks.com ] > > I am a boomer. My generation looked nuclear annihilation > > in the eye and said "No thanks, I'd rather drive a BMW." > > > Hi James -- > > I have done a bit of research here in Utah about this kind of swap, and > the federal rules are pretty clear, and inspectors I spoke with seemed > fairly direct about where they'd bend and where they wouldn't. The most > _exact_ rendering seems to be that the only fully legal swap is with an > engine that was originally available here in the US in the vehicle/model > year in question. The inspectors indicated to me that newer, cleanly > installed, engines would be tolerated if the purpose did not appear to > be hot-rodding. With a vanagon and a diesel you're probably ok there ;) > > The next trick is the gas -> diesel swap. Emissions testing is very > different for gas and diesel engines, so you can't simply "go get > tested" with a diesel when your title says it's gas, the test person will > go looking for a spark plug wire to hook up to the machine and will > freak out when they can't find one. There's no way to bluff through > that one, as far as I know. Here in Utah at least you have to get a new > title for the vehicle in order to do the gas -> diesel swap. It's not > illegal or discouraged, it's just a new title, but to get it you have to > go through the federal/local inspection regime. > > The bottom line is if you get a newer vehicle you'll have to get a newer > diesel. If you are willing to go for a TDI of more recent vintage than > the van (and I wouldn't stint on the electronics... it's just _begging_ > for trouble in California!), or maybe the Eurovan 2.4 NA diesel engine > (I'm not sure what years they were available in the US), then you'll > probably have no problem. > > Good luck! > > Gary -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
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