(1) Jim Ellis <ellijames@YAHOO.COM> said:

"... but it's more fun to create flame bait about Air vs Water on the
Vanagon list.  Besides, it's mid-Summer and all lists get boring ... "

Wrong!!   It is NOT "mid-Summer" !!!!   It is mid-WINTER !!!!

I know because every morning I have to scrape the ice off my car's
windscreen.

You North Americans have got it all wrong!

(2) I don't know what the fuss is a bout.  Afterall a "Vanagon" is a Type2
anyway!!!!

Simon Glen
Toowoomba, Australia.