yep Kevin, And if you had bothered to look at Matthew's web site before you
stuck your less impacted foot in your mouth, you might have seen, he is
making a difference. More than most of us can say.

It's fun watching people make fools of themselves on the net, don'tcha
think?

tim in majorly blighted  san jose, ca

>From: kevin obrien <kevindobrien@YAHOO.COM>
>Reply-To: kevin obrien <kevindobrien@YAHOO.COM>
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: Revisiting the Catalytic Converter...
>Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 08:33:00 -0700
>
>I didn't say I didn't want to preserve it....I was
>implying that a person should ask himself/herself if
>they are doing everything possible to limit the use of
>our enviro-damaging Vans BEFORE they post a message
>suggesting the measures another member should take.
>
>We love our Vanagons...but they are NOT the perfect
>vehicle for enjoying the natural world...or preserving
>it....catalytic converter or none.  I think our feet
>do alot less impact....
>
>Kevin
>--- anthony kimmons <akimmons@HOUSTON.RR.COM> wrote:
> > ditto, Bulley!
> >
> > ...Seems strange to me that someone who owns a van
> > that's perfect for
> > enjoying the
> > natural world would not want to spend a few bucks to
> > help preserve it...oh
> > well...
> >
> > -Tony
> > (new converter, and my van's not even being used
> > right now!)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "G. Matthew Bulley" wrote:
> >
> > > Kevin snidely writes:
> > >
> > > "With a comment like that I really hope you weigh
> > up every trip you make
> > > to the store, around town etc...so as not to burn
> > precious fossil fuels
> > > and pollute the air...not to mention your 2nd car
> > should be a electric
> > > hybrid...is it???
> > >
> > > Am I to understand that Kevin is making light of
> > the air you or your
> > > kids breathe.
> > >
> > > Maybe in his area of the country they don't have
> > 80+ code orange ozone
> > > days a year. Maybe Kevin doesn't have kids who he
> > wants to grow up
> > > without repository allergies, asthma, or
> > bronchitis.
> > >
> > > Maybe Kevin doesn't know what it is like to go for
> > a 3 mile run and feel
> > > like shit afterward because the air is crap.
> > >
> > > Whatever, Kevin.
> > >
> > > If you are trying to imply that being concerned
> > about the environment we
> > > all share is trivial, I'll let you stew in your
> > own pudding.
> > >
> > > I'll err on the side of caution, and so I'll spend
> > an extra buck or two
> > > to take the train rather than drive. I'll replace
> > that catalytic
> > > converter when it fails. I'll walk to the grocer,
> > the doctor, the
> > > barber, and work at home rather than commuting.
> > >
> > > I wasn't asking for the moon; our Vanagons aren't
> > the most efficient in
> > > the world but with a little technology, they can
> > at least be clean. Just
> > > a little common decency for our fellow travelers.
> > >
> > > Whatever, Kevin, make snide comments and feel smug
> > in your ozone world.
> > >
> > > Pax--
> > >
> > > G. Matthew Bulley
> > > Mount Olive, NC
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Vanagon Mailing List
> > [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf
> > > Of kevin obrien
> > > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 6:50 PM
> > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > Subject: Re: Revisiting the Catalytic Converter...
> > >
> > > Hey G. Mathew....
> > >
> > > With a comment like that I really hope you weigh
> > up
> > > every trip you make to the store, around town
> > etc...so
> > > as not to burn precious fossil fuels and pollute
> > the
> > > air...not to mention your 2nd car should be a
> > electric
> > > hybrid...is it???
> > >
> > > --- "G. Matthew Bulley"
> > <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
> > > wrote:
> > > > And then do the rest of us surface-dwellers a
> > favor
> > > > and spend the $100
> > > > on a new catalytic converter.
> > > >
> > > > Developing business and guiding change since
> > 1996,
> > > >
> > > > G. Matthew Bulley
> > > > Bulley-Hewlett
> > > > Marketing & Communications
> > > > Business: www.bulley-hewlett.com
> > > > Phone: +1.919.658.1278
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Vanagon Mailing List
> > > > [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf
> > > > Of Matthew Pollard
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 6:19 PM
> > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > > Subject: Re: Revisiting the Catalytic
> > Converter...
> > > >
> > > > oxygen sensor bad = running rich
> > > >
> > > > running rich = more work for cat to do
> > > >
> > > > more work for cat = getting hot & melting,
> > > > literally.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > unplug your oxygen sensor and see how you run.
> > > > better? if so, then
> > > > replace the oxygen sensor. if not change then
> > look
> > > > elsewhere.
> > > > matthew
> > >
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> > Anthony Kimmons, Houston Texas
> > http://www.akimmons.com
>
>
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