

| Subject: | Re: WAS-RE: Vendor Rant |
| From: | Helen Fahy |
| Date: | Tue, 6 Aug 2002 20:44:27 -0400 |
I was thinking of GOOD NEUTRAL BAD as the range of vendor/customer grades. The specifics of the transaction are just that, and probably not applicable to anyone else. So the trend would be X (GOOD, Neutral, BAD) results out of Y total transactions. Rather than get involved with the HE said, She said nonsense, just how did each party feel they did in the transaction. Joe Fahy '87 Westy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Wilder" <wilden1@JUNO.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 7:32 PM Subject: Re: WAS-RE: Vendor Rant > > Helen: Its already there, go to http://gerry.vanagon.com/archives/ then > just search on Vendor Bashing. > You'll find about 1,800 pages of it there with names and the works. > Vendor bashing is a weekly topic on Vanagon list and no vendor escapes > the wrath of the Vanagon list. > We often "lay them to waste" until Tom Carrington just kills the link > before we kill ourselves. > I agree that you have a viable complaint, although I've forgotten > specifically what it was. > > Stan Wilder > 83 Air Cooled Westfalia > > On Tue, 6 Aug 2002 19:07:59 -0400 Helen Fahy <72510.1173@COMPUSERVE.COM> > writes: > > Fellow Listmembers, > > > > I do not believe that accepting poor service or damaged product from > > 'net > > vendors, as a given cost of using the 'net, is reasonable. I do > > believe > > that some form of publicly viewable vendor/customer feedback, not > > unlike > > what Ebay maintains, would be beneficial to all. There would be > > abuses and > > misunderstandings in any such system, but overall trends of poor > > vendors or > > poor customers are going to be hard to hide. The system should > > allow > > responses to feedback to be allowed and viewable. > > > > As a metaphor for the value for this type of feedback, consider two > > restaurants, side by side, one with cars parked out in front, the > > other with > > none. What conclusions might you draw, assuming both were open > > serving the > > same type of food? As a counterpoint, if one of the parking lots is > > full of > > broken beer bottles, what conclusions might you draw about the > > clientele? > > > > With the anonymity of the 'net, little if any of this accessory > > information > > is available for informed shopping. > > > > Major snip- > > > > After considering this why complain about something that will > > happen. > > Instead give praise when a on-line order goes right ! > > > > End snip- > > > > I believe the list contains at least one of my most recent postings > > where I > > have thanked individuals and businesses for successful > > 'net/mail-order > > transactions. > > > > > > SNIPPED FROM: Re: lugs and studs for alloy LONG- Project & quasi > > TRIP > > REPORT > > Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 12:22:16 -0400 > > > > Big Thanks to: Doug Stewart @ European Imports > > Lockhaven,PA(mounted/balanced > > tires/wheels & 7" headlight fittings), Derek Drew(wheels), > > Tirerack(tires), > > Bus Depot(rear brake components), Vanagain(headlights) and Bugs and > > Buggies(studs). > > > > > > Respectfully, > > Joe Fahy > > '87 Westy > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sean Garrett" <SEAN.GARRETT@ASU.EDU> > > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 4:49 PM > > Subject: WAS-RE: Vendor Rant > > > > > > > > > > I have to chime in here, I have found that just about any mail > > order (or > > > internet based) shopping one does has "side effects". That is if > > your not > > > shopping in a store, looking at what you want (able to touch it > > and feel > > it, > > > etc...) then their is a chance for foul up. That is why I don't > > shop > > on-line > > > (or mail order catalog) for clothes. I need to try them on before > > I buy to > > > make sure they are what I want. > > > > > > Also even then you get a hassle... example, ordinary weekend > > job... any > > > plumbing or electrical around the house "fix it" task. Maybe its > > just me > > > but, I always end up at the hardware store about 4 times before > > the job is > > > done. > > > > > > After considering this why complain about something that will > > happen. > > > Instead give praise when a on-line order goes right ! > > > > > > Sean Garrett > > > 1981 Westy (his) > > > 1995 Eurovan Camper (hers) > > > sean.garrett@asu.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Justin M. Mayrand [mailto:jmayrand@ACORNWORLD.NET] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 1:41 PM > > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > > > Subject: Re: Vendor Rant > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had many vendors I do not use any more due to poor > > > > customer service > > > > or poor quality parts. I figure that if you have given the > > > > company a chance > > > > to make it right, but they still have not made things right, > > > > we should keep > > > > a running list here to save others the hassle. ...JMM > > > > > > > > Justin Mayrand > > > > '80 Westy "SuperVan" > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.362 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/02 > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! 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