

| Subject: | Re: SURVEY - Tyre widths - mea culpa |
| From: | Clive Smith |
| Date: | Tue, 20 Aug 2002 22:11:11 +0100 |
�186-70 for 4; they're also quiet on tarmac and quite grippy but not real go get 'em off-road treads KUMHO (Korea) 195 R15 1005 Powerguard AT (220.158 cm running cric calcualted - 3.76% on 195 14's) 1764 Lbs 44 PSI Max Radial M+S Tubeless Tread Steel 2 + Polyester 2 Sidewall Polyester 2 Plies �186-70 for 4 on 06/04/2001 @ Direct Services and Tyres, 108 Harwoods Road, Watford, WD18 7RL UK 01923 246180 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed DeBolt" <eddebolt@softcom.net> To: "Clive Smith" <clive.harman-smith@NTLWORLD.COM> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:01 PM Subject: Re: Re: SURVEY - Tyre widths - mea culpa > Hi Clive > > how much did your kumho's cost? where did you get them? > > Ed > Reno, NV > -----Original Message----- > From: Clive Smith <clive.harman-smith@NTLWORLD.COM> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Date: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 12:42 PM > Subject: Re: SURVEY - Tyre widths - mea culpa > > > >OK, I've heard enough, my flames were wrong. > > I can see that on sand especially, 205's and wider are > >going to be better. Of course the rally boys like narrower tyres for some > >surfaces to avoid gravelplaning, > >and maybe in snow or ice they can be better at cutting through to a good > >surface. > >There's probably a big difference between flying across surfaces where you > >want some sideloads > >for steering and negotiating soft surfaces slowly. > > > > > >P.S. My 195 15's are : > > > >KUMHO (Korea) > >195 R15 1005 Powerguard AT > >1764 Lbs 44 PSI Max > > > >Do you think they are rated sufficiently? > >They were quite inexpensive and look strong with little apparent tyrewall > >flex > >I've driven the van at an AUW of about 2.5 tons and the steering got > >heavier, > >of course, but they didn't look like they were suffering. > > > >Clive > >'88 Syncro > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "mark drillock" <drillock@EARTHLINK.NET> > >To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > >Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 3:59 AM > >Subject: Re: SURVEY - I need a metal fab. project > > > > > >> Clive, where are you finding 15" tires in 195 widths that have a > >> sufficient load rating for Vanagon Campers? > >> > >> As for the quest for robust 205/70/14 tires here in NA, that is the > >> stock original size many of our Vanagons came with. > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> Clive Smith wrote: > >> > > >> > A kit to allow 15" x 6" wheels with 195 tyres to fit under the front, > >like > >> > where they should for better mass distribution. > >> > I understand reading around that provided the tyres are not greater > than > >> > about 205 width , this can be done. > >> > > >> > On the same note I think its time for some FLAMES about large wide tyre > >> > sizes. > >> > Seems a helluva lot of people looking for 205 tyres, why this > >fascination > >> > with a little bit of extra width and ridiculous width rims? > >> > > >> > If its for looks alone then I can't really argue, do your own thing. > But > >as > >> > far as unsprung weight, suspension loads, smooth ride, shock absorber > >loads > >> > and performance, etc etc etc , all except maybe absolute roadholding > >forces > >> > on theoretically perfectly smooth roads I > >> > have always found there is a happy medium and that all the points > >mentioned > >> > are rapidly degraded for zero nett gain in roadholding and > >> > negative impact on handling, suspension wear etc. 15" and 16" wheels > are > >> > heavy enough (many alloys are no lighter than steels), without going to > >> > extreme widths as well. Think engineering, think mass and the original > >> > suspension design. > >> > > >> > OK FLAMES over, so I know my Kunho 15" 195's will fit under the front > >with a > >> > neat job done on the frame, and cross-wind handling will > >> > be improved a little too, no rear tyre carrier and more room inside. > >> > > >> > Think about it chaps, aren't you all making a rod for your own backs > >going > >> > to 205's and larger? > >> > > >> > Clive > >> > '88 Syncro Transporter > >> > > >
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